Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)

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With 8 ? normaly SSM get a more serious armament ofc remains low for AA threat but USN get very capable and powerful MSC ( 96/130 missiles ! ) for high intensity conflict then LCS can be used for secondary missions despite it interesting get a true successor for Perry for provide escort to CSG, ESG and eventualy SAG.
A thing with ASW module, towed sonar and 2 MH-60R are good sub hunter.

USN need better LCS Coz 84/88 MSC number max theoric all not operationnals ofc for 20 CSG/ESG is a number so short for provide escort, minimum 4 MSC/CSG, 3/4 ESG + FF/FFG then LCS help for complete and don' t forget some escort for convoy if in this case really better 50 LCS.

Hope LCS armed soon with SSM and it is the first step.
 

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Summary

The Navy’s Littoral Combat Ship (LCS)/Frigate program is a program to procure a large number of LCSs and modified LCSs. The modified LCSs are to be referred to as frigates. Prior to December 14, 2015, Navy plans called for procuring a total of 52 LCSs and frigates. A December 14, 2015, memorandum from Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter to Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus directed the Navy to reduce the LCS/Frigate program to a total of 40 ships. The memorandum also directed the Navy to neck down to a single builder of the ships starting with the ships to be procured in FY2019. (The ships are currently built by two shipyards.)

The first LCS was funded in FY2005, and a total of 26 have been funded through FY2016. The Navy’s proposed FY2016 budget requested the procurement of three LCSs. The Navy estimated the combined procurement cost of these three ships at $1,437.0 million, or an average of $479.0 million each. The three ships had received a total of $80 million in prior-year advance procurement (AP) funding, and the Navy’s FY2016 budget requested the remaining $1,357.0 million needed to complete their combined procurement cost.

From 2001 to 2014, the program was known simply as the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) program, and all 52 then-planned ships were referred to as LCSs. In 2014, at the direction of Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, the program was restructured. As a result of the restructuring, the final 20 ships in the program (ships 33 through 52), which were to be procured in FY2019 and subsequent fiscal years, were to be built to a revised version of the baseline LCS design, and were to be referred to as frigates rather than LCSs.

Under this plan, the LCS/Frigate program was to include 24 baseline-design LCSs procured in FY2005-FY2016, 20 frigates to be procured in FY2019 and subsequent fiscal years, and eight transitional LCSs (which might incorporate some but not all of the design modifications intended for the final 20 ships) to be procured in FY2016-FY2018, for a total of 52 ships.

Details in the December 14, 2015, memorandum from the Secretary of Defense suggest that the Navy has been directed to restructure the program into one that includes 24 baseline-design LCSs procured in FY2005-FY2016 (as before), 4 (rather than 8) transitional ships procured in FY2016-FY2018, and 8 (rather than 12) frigates procured in FY2019 and subsequent fiscal year, for a total of 40 ships. The memorandum directs the Navy to neck down to a single builder for the final 12 ships.

Two very different baseline LCS designs are currently being built. One was developed by an industry team led by Lockheed; the other was developed by an industry team that was led by General Dynamics. The Lockheed design is built at the Marinette Marine shipyard at Marinette, WI; the General Dynamics design is built at the Austal USA shipyard at Mobile, AL. Ships 5 through 24 in the program are being procured under a pair of 10-ship block buy contracts that were awarded to the two LCS builders in December 2010. The 24th LCS—the first of the three LCSs requested for procurement in FY2016—was to be the final ship to be procured under these block buy contracts, but the contract might be extended to include the 25th and 26th ships (i.e., the second and third ships requested for FY2016) as well.

The LCS program has been controversial over the years due to past cost growth, design and construction issues with the lead ships built to each design, concerns over the ships’ survivability (i.e., ability to withstand battle damage), concerns over whether the ships are sufficiently armed and would be able to perform their stated missions effectively, and concerns over the development and testing of the ships’ modular mission packages. The Navy’s execution of the program has been a matter of congressional oversight attention for several years.

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Seems finished this eventual deal for 4 FFG logic with energy price.

WASHINGTON — Saudi Arabia has turned down a US Navy offer to build four frigates based on the Lockheed Martin littoral combat ship (LCS) design, sources familiar with the situation said, but the move is thought to be part of a continuing negotiation over price and schedule, not a rejection of the overall

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The Saudis had been expected to spend upwards of $16 billion on the SNEP 2 program. But with oil revenues falling and the conflict in Yemen turning into a longer and more-protracted affair than originally envisioned, it is not clear how committed the government is to its naval modernization plans.

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But Lockheed Martin ready

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At the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) National Symposium currently held near Washington DC, Lockheed Martin is showcasing for the first time a scale model representative of the MMSC (Multi-Mission Surface Combatant) being offered to the Royal Saudi Navy as part of a modernization program of the Saudi navy's eastern fleet called SNEP II (Saudi Naval Expansion Program)


The more interesting hangar for seems only one helo with VLS on each side and with a very decent armament.

Ar S LCS.jpg

Armament
1 x 76 mm
1 or 2 x 20 mm
2 x Mk-41 with 8 cell's each for 16 missiles or up to 64 ESSM
1 x 11 round SeaRAM missile launcher
8 x Harpoon
2 x triple torpedo launchers
Hangar for 1 MH-60R

Actual LCS armament
1 x 57 mm
2 x 30 mm
1 x 21 round RAM missile launcher
Hangar for 2 MH-60S/R
 

Jeff Head

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Actual LCS armament
1 x 57 mm
2 x 30 mm
1 x 21 round RAM missile launcher
Hangar for 2 MH-60S/R
The Saudi vessels look very good.

But the actual LCS armament is changing (As has been announced) and you will need to add the ASMs in there.
 

FORBIN

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The Saudi vessels look very good.

But the actual LCS armament is changing (As has been announced) and you will need to add the ASMs in there.

Waiting for they get it soon :)

We want it :)

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During the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) National Symposium held last week near Washington DC, Lockheed Martin unveiled on the last day of the show a new scale model showing the configuration of the new Freedom variant Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) Frigate.

The first noticeable difference on this model (compared to the existing
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) is the presence of 8x Harpoon anti-ship missiles fitted between the Mk 46 Mod 2 Gun Weapon Systems and the funnels. While on the other side of the 30mm guns, 2x 30 cells for Longbow Hellfire missiles are fitted. A Lockheed Martin representative told Navy Recognition at the show that "This is representative of the surface warfare package that transferred forward from the LCS design."

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Jeff Head

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So, the LCS up armament is proceeding. Lockheed unveiled the plan for the up armed Freedom class during the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) National Symposium held the week of January 10th near Washington DC.

They showed a scale model of the configuration of the Freedom variant Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) Frigate.

Uparmed-LCS.jpg

The immediate notable difference is the inclusion of eight Harpoon anti-ship missiles in two quad launchers that are located amidships between the two Mk 46 Mod 2 30mm Guns and the funnels.

In addition, further aft of the 30mm guns, there are now two groups of vetical launch system (VLS) cells for the new naval Longbow Hellfire missiles.

In addition, you can see the upgrade to the SeaRAM defensive missile system located further aft over the hanger.

A Lockheed Martin representative indicated to our SD friend NavyRecognition at the show, that this new configuration is representative of the new Naval Warfare capabilities that are coming forward for the Freedom class LCS for the US Navy.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Navy Declares IOC On Independence-Variant Littoral Combat Ship; Future Of Mine Warfare Package Still Unclear
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January 21, 2016 7:30 AM • Updated: January 20, 2016 5:00 PM
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Sailors assigned to Surface Warfare Mission Package Detachment 2 prepare to be hoisted out of the water by the littoral combat ship USS Coronado’s (LCS 4) twin-boom-extensible crane following a visit, board, search and seizure training exercise on Aug. 15, 2015. US Navy photo.

The Navy declared initial operational capability on the Independence variant of the Littoral Combat Ship last month, a formal step after years of the ship operating off the U.S. coast.

The LCS has two distinct ship hull variants and three separate mission packages, each of which has to have its own IOC declaration before deploying. The Lockheed Martin-built Freedom variant spent its early days testing the surface warfare mission package, and after extensive testing both the mission package and the ship hull reached IOC in November 2014.

The Austal-built Independence variant, however, has spent most of its time at sea with the mine countermeasures mission package, which experienced problems last summer and had its initial operational test and evaluation (IOT&E) and IOC declaration indefinitely delayed.

USS Coronado (LCS-4), the second Indy-variant ship in the fleet, spent several months last spring and summer
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Program Executive Officer for LCS Rear Adm. Brian Antonio told USNI News on Jan. 14 that after the test finished he received an interim evaluation from the Commander of Operational Test and Evaluation Force, worked with the fleet and the surface warfare directorate to review the findings, and got their concurrence to declare IOC. Antonio formally signed the IOC declaration on Dec. 24, 2015.

Antonio said the surface warfare mission package increment 1 and 2 were used during the IOT&E – meaning 30 mm and 57 mm guns, a SeaRAM anti-ship missile defense system, small rigid-hull inflatable boats and more were incorporated in the test plan.

Antonio said Jan. 14 during a panel presentation at the annual Surface Navy Association national symposium that the PEO is testing the increment 3 version now – which includes a surface-to-surface missile – and hopes to have that addition to the mission package fielded in 2017.

Antonio said the PEO is preparing for a slew of accomplishments in the near future: in March the Navy will buy LCS-25 and 26, the last two ships in a 22-ship block buy; the 2017 acquisition strategy will be finalized soon, pending details in the Fiscal Year 2017 president’s budget request; hulls 7 through 10 will deliver to the fleet; and the service will award a contract for sustainment of the East Coast-based LCSs, which will be homeported in Mayport, Fla.

The future of the mine countermeasures mission package is still unclear. The
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in October to assess reliability issues still affecting the Remote Minehunting System (RMS) and the mission package as a whole. Antonio said it would still be another few weeks until that panel reports back on how the LCS program should proceed.

“The delay of IOT&E will enable the Independent Review Team to report their findings, which will inform the Operational Test Readiness Review and the way ahead for [the Remote Multimission Vehicle in the RMS] and the MCM mission package in general,” Naval Sea Systems Command spokesman Dale Eng told USNI News.
“The Navy is not yet announcing a revised schedule for MCM [mission package] IOT&E. The Navy is coordinating with all stakeholders, particularly the Fleet, in developing courses of action for IOT&E. The Navy will inform Congress once a determination has been made.”
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