Chinese Economics Thread

Doombreed

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Remember, this information is not coming from China. This is a Western concoction that is nothing positive for China. Trying to make it look like China is richer than the US is not meant to honor China.

This is a very good point. A country gains nothing by pretending to be richer than they are. You cheat at the WTO by pretending to be poor to gain concessions. Pretending to be rich is only good for the online nationalists.

It's freaking hilarious reading some of the other forums where people are calling China a potemkin village. Oh the CCP must be fudging their data. China is a lot poorer than they want you to believe. If anything. China is under reporting their economic activities. China wants to stay on the developing country band wagon as long as she can to gain as much as she can from trade negotiations.
 

pla101prc

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You would think that the CPC would make use of this piece of news (GDP surpassing the US in PPP terms) to boast their achievements and consolidate their legitimacy--but no, you hardly hear any news on this in China.

It's so dead silent that it's almost as if they censored it.

It's really funny to see how all Western media is making such a big fuss out of it and using titles such as "China becomes world's No. 1" while the Chinese government as well as her people don't actually give a damn.

actually the Chinese government has publicly denounced such assertion and reiterated the need to for the international community to refrain from demanding to much of poor China
 

Blitzo

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This is a very good point. A country gains nothing by pretending to be richer than they are. You cheat at the WTO by pretending to be poor to gain concessions. Pretending to be rich is only good for the online nationalists.

It's freaking hilarious reading some of the other forums where people are calling China a potemkin village. Oh the CCP must be fudging their data. China is a lot poorer than they want you to believe. If anything. China is under reporting their economic activities. China wants to stay on the developing country band wagon as long as she can to gain as much as she can from trade negotiations.

Well they technically are a developing country, but its size means that even if only a small fraction of its populace are living in urbanized or developed conditions, its total GDP will still be bigger than many other developed countries.

so on the one hand, it gives china a lot of political and economic clout globally, but it also means China faces similar issues to other developing countries and would be more likely to side in their corner in various trade or emissions control measures.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Doombreed is just spinning. What concessions does China get from the WTO? Is this like the lie that China dumps chicken in the US when in truth it's the other way around? PPP is spinning. Just like spinning all those outsourced Made in China products out to be actually profited by Chinese for where China can use its developing status for what? You know why US politicians never pull the trigger on tariffs for exports from China? Because it's the American company that outsources to China that will pay it not China. So it's a big lie told by US politicians and corporations because to reveal the truth means that would end the money train for outsourcing US corporations.
 

Blackstone

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CCP imposes "resource tax" on coal, and regional overlords are authorized to set between 2-10% tax as appropriate for local conditions. Look for followup corruption investigations and purges of Xi's rivals.

Is Australia the biggest foreign loser in the coal-fired pollution crackdown?
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China's government has said it will impose a resources tax of between two and ten per cent on the country’s struggling coal industry after last week’s shock announcement of an increase in tariffs for both coking and thermal coals.

The Ministry of Finance said on Saturday that the country would allow provincial authorities to set their own resources tax according to their local situation after considering the tax burden on companies and their level of reserves.

“The coal resources tax range will be between 2 per cent and 10 per cent with the specific tax rates to be set by provincial level finance and tax departments,” the Ministry of Finance and the State Administration of Taxation said in statements posted on their websites, “provincial governments need to submit their proposed tax rates for final approval.”

The new resources tax is the latest move introduced by Beijing to combat the country’s worsening environmental crisis following the decision last week to impose a levy of three per cent on coking coal imports and six per cent on lower grade thermal coal.

China Coal Industry Association, the country’s leading industry body, estimates more than 70 per cent of coal miners have made losses this year.
 

Lethe

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I don't know if we're the biggest loser or not, but we're sure doing a good job of whining about it. Today Prime Minister Tony Abbott attended the opening of a new coal mine, asserting that Coal is "
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He also claimed that he will "
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" Putin at the G20 summit next month over MH17.

With any luck Putin will use some judo moves on him. ;)
 
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getready

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I don't know if we're the biggest loser or not, but we're sure doing a good job of whining about it. Today Prime Minister Tony Abbott attended the opening of a new coal mine, asserting that Coal is "
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He also claimed that he will "
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" Putin at the G20 summit next month over MH17.

With any luck Putin will use some judo moves on him. ;)

Abbot is just a motormouth moronic politician. Coal good for humanity, wtf!? He and joe "I hate wind farms" hockey are made for each other. Ashamed to be australian. I would not piss on the comedy duo even if they caught fire.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
CCP imposes "resource tax" on coal, and regional overlords are authorized to set between 2-10% tax as appropriate for local conditions. Look for followup corruption investigations and purges of Xi's rivals.

Shanghai can look forward to better air quality and quality of life years from now.
 

ABC78

Junior Member
LinkedIn Will Play By China's Rules

LinkedIn Will Play By China's Rules
LinkedIn is adopting a model where they will play by China's rules now in the hopes of achieving freedom to operate within their laws later. This new system was influenced by the difficulty other companies like Facebook and Google are having in China.

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shen

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Canberra set to sign for China-led bank

The Australian
October 13, 2014 12:00AM

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AUSTRALIA is close to joining a Chinese government plan to create a $50 billion infrastructure bank despite US objections about the way the cash could be used to extend China’s power throughout Asia.

In a test of regional loyalties, the Abbott government is likely to back the fund next month, complementing a wider agenda at the G20 summit in Brisbane to use mammoth infrastructure spending to lift the global economy.

The Australian has been told the commitment to the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank is subject to checks on its governance and leadership, similar to concerns expressed by others about voting rights for those who sign up.

An agreement would tighten links between Canberra and Beijing just as ministers enter final talks on a free-trade agreement that could dramatically expand two-way trade already worth more than $150bn a year.

In a sign of Australian concern about Beijing’s actions, Joe Hockey used a closed session of the International Monetary Fund on Saturday to warn against China’s surprise decision last week to impose tariffs on coal imports.

The deal on China’s new bank would deliver hard financial commitments to match the talk from economic leaders in recent days at the G20, the IMF and the World Bank, where many have called for urgent steps to spur growth.

But there are deep tensions around the Chinese plan, with the The New York Times reporting US officials were pressing Australia and South Korea to spurn the new bank because it would undermine the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank, both set up with support from the US and Japan. The US saw the AIIB as a “soft-power” exercise that would draw Asian countries closer to Beijing’s orbit, the report said.

There were doubts yesterday about the scale of US concern, however, with one source saying the Treasury was not alarmed.

Australia and South Korea are said to be working together on *issues around the governance and leadership of the AIIB.

Chinese president Xi Jinping is expected to formally announce the bank when he hosts the Asia- Pacific Economic Co-operation meeting on November 10 and 11.

That could see Tony Abbott signing up to the AIIB in Beijing a few days before he hosts Mr Xi and other leaders at the G20 summit in Brisbane on November 15 and 16.

One source said there was a “reasonable chance” Australia would sign. A second source said he thought the federal government had decided to back the plan.

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Why the US Is Trying to Squash China's New Development Bank

The U.S. has been lobbying Asian nations to persuade them to reject China’s Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.
 
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