H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

[volleyballer]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

Hmmm ... not sure since I can't read the whole text but since PuPu seems to be an often mentiond reliable poster ...

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A short bing-translation of "PUPU：轰18不存在！" means "PUPU: H-18 does not exist!" !!!

Can anyone give a full translation please ?

Deino

There is no H-18. Originally 601 was working on a long range design (but not a heavy bomber). During the first half of this year AVIC did some rearranging of the items and the long range design item is now handled by another institute for sure.

 

[Quickie]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

So, according to what is claimed by Pupu, there is indeed a long range bomber in early study or development. What is not clear from the above is whether he meant "H-18 designation" doesn't exist, or the bomber development is not called H-18, which itself is a different development.

 

[Hyperwarp]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

Long ranged bomber maybe the B-2 like flying wing design. Hui Tong added the following designations to his blog :

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H-18 : medium-range/medium-sized bomber (expected to replace the H-6)
H-20 : long-range strategic bomber (a "strategic project" that is gaining full speed at 603/XAC)

 

[Deino]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

But if that H-18 does not exist - at least from SAC/601 - as stated by Pupu ... what designer / manufactor will build it then ??

 

[Skywatcher]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

Guess that 7,500 km bomber mentioned in the Free Beacon's copy of the leaked USCC 2013 Report is probably different from the "H-18" then*.

*They said 7,500 mile ranged bomber, but that could be a typo.

 

[Hyperwarp]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

But if that H-18 does not exist - at least from SAC/601 - as stated by Pupu ... what designer / manufactor will build it then ??

Maybe 603/XAC? After all JH-7/7A, H-6(A-K) are all from them. I certainly hope SAC/601 won't get involved with next gen bombers. So maybe there are two bomber projects for XAC one being a medium range bomber replacing H-6 and the other a long range (perhaps intercontinental) bomber. Designation H-18, H-20 may not be correct but there maybe 2 bomber projects at XAC. The long-ranged project perhaps has the highest priority.

Regarding the medium bomber, maybe 601/SAC

-up (unsurprisingly) and it was forwarded to 603/XAC or 601/SAC design lost out to 603/XAC. Either the way if SAC is not involved thats probably a good thing.

 

[Skywatcher]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

Maybe 603/XAC? After all JH-7/7A, H-6(A-K) are all from them. I certainly hope SAC/601 won't get involved with next gen bombers. So maybe there are two bomber projects for XAC one being a medium range bomber replacing H-6 and the other a long range (perhaps intercontinental) bomber. Designation H-18, H-20 may not be correct but there maybe 2 bomber projects at XAC. The long-ranged project perhaps has the highest priority.

Regarding the medium bomber, maybe 601/SAC

-up (unsurprisingly) and it was forwarded to 603/XAC or 601/SAC design lost out to 603/XAC. Either the way if SAC is not involved thats probably a good thing.

But Shenyang/601 still has a stake in the Sharp Sword, right?

 

[Hyperwarp]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

^^^

Yup. Its joint SAC and Hongdu project IIRC.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

I think Pupu has a credibility problem or he intentionally spreads misinformation. He's also perpetuated rumors of a certain notorious deal that has not come to pass yet.

What model is Huitong talking about because I believe he's stated before the black model was a cancelled project or something like that?

 

[Deino]

Re: PLAAF new JH-XX / H-X bomber soncepts

To admit I for myself won't disdredit his credibilitly ... since as reported from most reliable leaks, the negotiations are still ongoing and anything will - if ever - reported in 2014.

Regarding that bkack model and so far all our asumptions that this might be from SAC it makes perfectly sense if 601/SAC lost this project - as such the black model shown was the losing contender - and the new design was forwarded to 603/XAC.

Just my 2 Cents.
Deino