Greatest warriors of ancient China

no_name

Colonel
For example, let's say Musashi was really able to cut down 70 men, how long do you think he will last against 10 Chukonu on the open battle field? Or how about against 5 Mongolian mounted archers? He's just going to be among a field of corpses like a common soldier, peppered by arrows, or impaled by heavy cavalry, or blasted by gunpowder.

Which is what I said it depends under what kind of condition you are talking about.

Talking about the greatest warrior, I would say Xiang Yu.

Must include Xiang Yu. Both he and the men that formed the original core of his army are strong. 楚戰士無不一以當十
 
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no_name

Colonel
Personally I would say that it is in spite of it rather than because of it.

Xiang Yu is not without personality flaws, he made alot of mistakes that threw his advantages away.
 

solarz

Brigadier
Personally I would say that it is in spite of it rather than because of it.

Xiang Yu is not without personality flaws, he made alot of mistakes that threw his advantages away.

That's what I meant. Though the Chu were great warriors, they were no match against the leadership of Liu Bang, and the strategic genius of Han Xin. That's why there are so few stories of "elite soldiers" like the Spartans and Vikings of the West.
 

Kurt

Junior Member
The greatest hero is always the nameless soldier.
You guys have some serious misconceptions about Western military history.
 

vesicles

Colonel
The greatest hero is always the nameless soldier.
You guys have some serious misconceptions about Western military history.

We all know the nameless soldiers are the brave ones, but that is not the purpose of this thread...

What do you mean by "having misconceptions about Western military history"? Although there are many many famous military strategists in the west, the physical prowess of ancient western warriors is legendary and has been glorified in many Wesern literature, including the famous Homer's Illiad and Odessey. So there is little doubt that Western civilization also worships great physical abilities...
 

Kurt

Junior Member
and Viking elite Ninja killing Spartans.

Roland, Achilles, Hector and Horatio Cocles are fictional characters like Rambo, Terminator and Riddick.

Let's do it systematic. What does define a great warrior and who are then the greatest warriors? Some names you heard in a fairy tale or read in the tabloids?
So what must a warrior do to be great?
Is a warrior great because he has outstanding physical abilities or is a warrior great because he trained to acquire these?
Is a warrior great because he has physical abilities or is he great because he pushed his acquired high abilities to the limit?
Leading other warriors requires lots of training, constraint and and logistic calculations to then motivate them to achieve something extraordinary.

Alexander the Great for example was by no means the greatest nor the sole great warrior in the West, rather he had an outstanding army with even more outstanding logistics that included various necessary items, but hardly much beyond necessary means and valuable plunder. The Chinese clashes with the Greeco-Bactrian kingdom do by no means count as invasions to Europe's door, nor are the connections between the Hsiung-Nu and the Huns clear. It seems a few people left the Eastern part of Eurasia and moved West, but never a people as large as the whole Hsiung Nu or Hsiung Nu at all. The Huns were rather some hardheads who wanted to continue their way of live by living of others' toils and thought the West a suitable playground. If they had not impressed others to join them on their plunder tours they would hardly have been worth more than a sidenote and that's why their federation so easily broke down.
 
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