SteelBird
Colonel
Re: JL-15 and other trainers
Then, you must brain-wash somebody in the PLA. No offend, this is the way the Chinese do things.
Then, you must brain-wash somebody in the PLA. No offend, this is the way the Chinese do things.
Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)
- Thread starter tphuang
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Re: JL-15 and other trainers
I think PLA top brass has start to change their mentality....
They know the need for rapid modernization and the fact budget is not a problem.
The fact they going into CV shows they are willing to spend and not the old practice of being frigid.
I think PLA top brass has start to change their mentality....
They know the need for rapid modernization and the fact budget is not a problem.
The fact they going into CV shows they are willing to spend and not the old practice of being frigid.
Semi-Lobster
Junior Member
Re: JL-15 and other trainers
While the L-15 is a very advanced trainer, and would make a fine addition to the PLAAF's inventory, I think not enough credit is being given to the JL-9 which is a simple, light weight, and altogether, sound design. USAF pilots who go on to fly F-22s (when they get back in the air that is!) still train on the T-38 (for now at least). Fourth (third in Chinese) generation fighters will be in the PLAAf's inventory for quiet sometime and an aircraft like the JL-9 will do a good job training those pilots. I wouldn't be surprised if both trainers find their place,
While the L-15 is a very advanced trainer, and would make a fine addition to the PLAAF's inventory, I think not enough credit is being given to the JL-9 which is a simple, light weight, and altogether, sound design. USAF pilots who go on to fly F-22s (when they get back in the air that is!) still train on the T-38 (for now at least). Fourth (third in Chinese) generation fighters will be in the PLAAf's inventory for quiet sometime and an aircraft like the JL-9 will do a good job training those pilots. I wouldn't be surprised if both trainers find their place,
Re: JL-15 and other trainers
乌拉圭即将来华洽购L-15教练机
俄媒称乌拉圭空军代表团将于2011年10月中旬访问中国，以评估购买K-8和L-15型教练-战斗机的可行性。
据俄罗斯世界武器贸易分析中心网站9月20日报道，乌拉圭空军代表团将于今年10月中旬访问中国，以评估购买K-8和L-15型教练-战斗机的可行性。
目前，乌拉圭空军正在全球范围内挑选新的教练机，用以替换老式的A-37B和IA-58。
按照计划，新采购的飞机将会与不久前购买自西班牙的Lanza三坐标远程监视雷达配合使用。
在此之前，乌拉圭空军已对俄制雅克-130、捷克L-159、意大利M-346和阿根廷IA-63等教练机的性能进行了评估。
虽然乌空军部分人士反对从中国购买新型教练机，但考虑到不久前委内瑞拉和玻利维亚两国空军已与中方签署了购买K-8教练机的合同，这将为中方开拓乌拉圭市场创造有利条件——该地区购买K-8教练机数量的增加将有助于降低后期的维护成本和零配件供应成本。
Google Translation
Russian media said the delegation of Uruguayan Air Force in mid-October 2011 visit to China, to evaluate the purchase of K-8 and L-15 type of coach - the feasibility of fighters.
According to the Russian world arms trade center site on September 20 reported that Uruguay Air Force delegation will visit China in mid-October this year to evaluate the purchase of K-8 and L-15 type of coach - the feasibility of fighters.
Currently, Uruguay, the Air Force is worldwide selection of new trainer to replace the old A-37B and the IA-58.
According to the plan, the new aircraft will be purchased and recently purchased from Spain Lanza coordinate long-range surveillance radar for use.
Prior to this, Uruguay has Russian-made Yak-130 Air Force, the Czech L-159, M-346 in Italy and Argentina IA-63 trainer aircraft such as the performance was evaluated.
While some black people against the Air Force to buy a new trainer aircraft from China, but taking into account the recent Air Force Venezuela and Bolivia, two countries have been signed with China to buy K-8 trainer aircraft of the contract, which will open up the Chinese market and create favorable conditions Uruguay - the area to buy K-8 trainer aircraft will help reduce the increasing number of post-maintenance costs and spare parts costs.
乌拉圭即将来华洽购L-15教练机
俄媒称乌拉圭空军代表团将于2011年10月中旬访问中国，以评估购买K-8和L-15型教练-战斗机的可行性。
据俄罗斯世界武器贸易分析中心网站9月20日报道，乌拉圭空军代表团将于今年10月中旬访问中国，以评估购买K-8和L-15型教练-战斗机的可行性。
目前，乌拉圭空军正在全球范围内挑选新的教练机，用以替换老式的A-37B和IA-58。
按照计划，新采购的飞机将会与不久前购买自西班牙的Lanza三坐标远程监视雷达配合使用。
在此之前，乌拉圭空军已对俄制雅克-130、捷克L-159、意大利M-346和阿根廷IA-63等教练机的性能进行了评估。
虽然乌空军部分人士反对从中国购买新型教练机，但考虑到不久前委内瑞拉和玻利维亚两国空军已与中方签署了购买K-8教练机的合同，这将为中方开拓乌拉圭市场创造有利条件——该地区购买K-8教练机数量的增加将有助于降低后期的维护成本和零配件供应成本。
Google Translation
Russian media said the delegation of Uruguayan Air Force in mid-October 2011 visit to China, to evaluate the purchase of K-8 and L-15 type of coach - the feasibility of fighters.
According to the Russian world arms trade center site on September 20 reported that Uruguay Air Force delegation will visit China in mid-October this year to evaluate the purchase of K-8 and L-15 type of coach - the feasibility of fighters.
Currently, Uruguay, the Air Force is worldwide selection of new trainer to replace the old A-37B and the IA-58.
According to the plan, the new aircraft will be purchased and recently purchased from Spain Lanza coordinate long-range surveillance radar for use.
Prior to this, Uruguay has Russian-made Yak-130 Air Force, the Czech L-159, M-346 in Italy and Argentina IA-63 trainer aircraft such as the performance was evaluated.
While some black people against the Air Force to buy a new trainer aircraft from China, but taking into account the recent Air Force Venezuela and Bolivia, two countries have been signed with China to buy K-8 trainer aircraft of the contract, which will open up the Chinese market and create favorable conditions Uruguay - the area to buy K-8 trainer aircraft will help reduce the increasing number of post-maintenance costs and spare parts costs.
Re: JL-15 and other trainers
I think that would be a fine opportunity esp. with the sales already in Venezuela and Bolivia.
Additionally there are many countries, which will need to replace their older trainers as well as light-attack types (like A-37) and as such a combination of K-8, L-15 trainers and maybe even later duel-role type.
Deino
I think that would be a fine opportunity esp. with the sales already in Venezuela and Bolivia.
Additionally there are many countries, which will need to replace their older trainers as well as light-attack types (like A-37) and as such a combination of K-8, L-15 trainers and maybe even later duel-role type.
Deino
Semi-Lobster
Junior Member
Re: JL-15 and other trainers
Lerx and a double delta wing effectively create the same effect. FBW is important though especially for a training aircraft where safety is paramount
Lerx and a double delta wing effectively create the same effect. FBW is important though especially for a training aircraft where safety is paramount
Semi-Lobster
Junior Member
Re: JL-15 and other trainers
Where do people get these great L-15 photos? Are they at Chengdu or somewhere else?
Where do people get these great L-15 photos? Are they at Chengdu or somewhere else?