PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles

[BoraTas]

hmmmmm, I thought the idea of YJ-18C is it can be "hidden" in 20 or 40 ft container (?)

Not sure whether YJ-18C is sub-sonic only, or the same as YJ-18 that have Mach 3 in the last ~40kms

The designation YJ-18C was not official before the parade. It was a Wikipedia designation. The real stealthy YJ-18C we saw is almost certainly has a subsonic terminal stage. No staging was visible.

 

[00CuriousObserver]

055 launching YJ-20

 

[siegecrossbow]

YJ-62 with dual guidance.

 

[tphuang]

说起鹰击18我还想起个事儿。
简中正道人的一大船货崇拜对象，就是低空高亚音速巡航导弹。他们会无限拉高低空高亚音速巡航弹药的军事意义，无限贬低一切超音速兵器和高超音速兵器的效能。这种对着决战兵器性高潮的腐儒劲儿先不谈。这带来的一个不好结果就是反过来的建制派们会无限贬低高亚音速巡航弹，仿佛这已经是上个世纪的落后技术一样。
抛开无聊的文明野蛮兵器二分法不谈，但只要地球是圆的，那么低空高亚音速巡航弹就永远有活路，因为这种远程巡航弹会极大地牵制敌空基预警力量。因为即便最隐身的巡航导弹，在现代化的航空兵和预警机的下视面前也是不隐身而且易于拦截的，但你不太可能给每个重点方向都配置无限多的预警机。
就好比雷区对于装甲部队的限制，光电地空导弹对航空兵的限制一样，当代射程动辄破一千公里的，有正向隐身能力，有航路规划的巡航导弹，就是会极大提高敌人每一步行动时的成本。尤其是在高端（High end）作战场景下，因为双方都无可能对这种纯粹防区外平台进行有效追猎打击。
然后问题就来了，地球上谁的预警力量多到不怕分散呢，又是谁特种机队平均年龄奔着50去了呢（笑）。
首先排除VKS。
简中正道粉丝把高亚音速巡航弹当个文明兵器，但客观事实是，“正道世界”的太约联军们，在可预见的未来，对于“正义联盟”的高亚音速巡航导弹的防护水平是肉眼可见的差，甚至比他们天天担忧的高超兵器还要差

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但是LRASM是走中高空亚音速巡航的，反而YJ-18才是是走低空掠海亚音速巡航的，所以LRASM射程比YJ-18远

some really interesting thought here from Ayi and cute orca.
YJ-18 series is actually very hard to defend against given its Long range, stealthy shape and low flying altitude across entire flight path.

 

[tphuang]

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比较夸张的掠海弹道。鹰击18是全世界掠海飞行高度最低的反舰巡航导弹，立项指标就是要比海拉姆的拦截高度低5米左右。从某种角度讲，鹰击18反而是最符合“正道世界”定义下的“文明兵器”。

YJ-18 has the world's lowest sea skimming flight altitude. About 5m lower than Sea-RAM's minimum interception altitude.

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They are finally showcasing the sub launched version of YJ-18, this YJ-18B I think?

 

[siegecrossbow]

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YJ-18 has the world's lowest sea skimming flight altitude. About 5m lower than Sea-RAM's minimum interception altitude.

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They are finally showcasing the sub launched version of YJ-18, this YJ-18B I think?

Not to mention that it flies at sea skimming altitude for a much longer duration than LRASM.

 

[tphuang]

Not to mention that it flies at sea skimming altitude for a much longer duration than LRASM.

it is kind of interesting this is the first time we've seen submarine launched version of YJ-18 because it has been around for a while and YJ-19 has already been showcased. PLAN surely thinks very highly of it. You can imagine that within ECS or SCS, you can have SSKs launching YJ-18 from directions that carrier groups are not expecting and might have a hard time picking up.

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

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YJ-18 has the world's lowest sea skimming flight altitude. About 5m lower than Sea-RAM's minimum interception altitude.

All variants (including the original with supersonic terminal sprint capability), or the newer C variant with VLO features?

 

[00CuriousObserver]

Cross posting here

From Hole Hole the Chengdu Gay Guy Who is Actually from Hainan:

This is yet another surprise from this year’s Navy Day: the original transport-launch canister for the YJ-12A can accommodate the new YJ-15A. The new ship-launched anti-ship missile has already been used on the 956EM, and that was not a slip of the tongue.

As the successor variant to the YJ-12 series, the YJ-15 series is not only smaller and lighter, bringing it down to the YJ-83K class so that it can fit tactical aircraft platforms, but also features comprehensive upgrades to its internal systems and components. Because of this, the YJ-15A is also very suitable as a replacement for various shipborne versions of the YJ-83. In theory, if a coastal-defense version is needed, the YJ-12B canister would not require major modifications to fit the YJ-15B.

The YJ-15’s diameter may be roughly similar to that of the YJ-12. The air-launched version shown at last year’s parade had a very small booster. However, the shipborne or land-based versions would have a much lower initial speed than the aircraft-launched version, so they may require a longer and more powerful booster. In that case, the extra length inside the YJ-12A/B canister could be put to good use.

Perhaps in the near future, the YJ-12 variants across different platforms will be fully replaced by the YJ-15 series. But before the replacement is completely finished, using launch canisters with a similar appearance also creates strong conditions for secrecy, making it difficult for the enemy to determine from appearance alone exactly what missile is inside.

From Yankee: When the sergeant major was explaining the anti-ship missile, he said: “This is the latest type of slant-launched anti-ship missile shown at last year’s September 3 military parade. A range of 800-1000km is no problem.”

 

[siegecrossbow]

Cross posting here

From Hole Hole the Chengdu Gay Guy Who is Actually from Hainan:



From Yankee: When the sergeant major was explaining the anti-ship missile, he said: “This is the latest type of slant-launched anti-ship missile shown at last year’s September 3 military parade. A range of 800-1000km is no problem.”

I think he only resides in Hainan. He was born and raised in Guangdong.