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Probably better here than the Iran strategy thread:
Ok, I stopped reading after you started name calling me, so that is OK.
Well, it's obvious to everyone so I didn't consider it name-calling because what other than an imbecile thinks that the higher the military spending the better, and 30% is boss level? And it's not like imbeciles can really learn so it was really for other people to read anyway.
Regarding DPRK, they still stand, and compared to Iran, the DPRK is not getting bombed because DPRK has nukes and ICBMs and is even battling NATO-supported troops in Ukraine, assisting Russia.
Uh huh. I like North Korea, but North Korea would not be a challenge to the US regardless of size because it prioritizes now rather than investing in the future. I like what they're doing, but with less than 2% military spending, China is America's only challenger and overwhelming favorite.
Given the fact that DPRK economy is a lot smaller than Iran, I would say that DPRK definitely gets a lot more for their spending than Iran does. People seem to ignore PPP.
Comparing North Korea to Iran is moot; North Korea making nukes was the most correct thing it ever did and Iran's old leader held it back big time. Compared to China, North Korea's not going anywhere with its 30%. You're criticizing China, right?
If you can build your own weapons, that is the only thing that matters.
How good they are matters a lot. The only thing that North Korea makes well is nukes, and that's only assumed. They are purely defensive with a 30% budget. China makes everything well, and everything is gettng to a generation that will be a qualitative overmatch for the US... with under 2%. I like the latter.
I am familiar with all the "golden toilets" the U.S. is spending money on (and other wasteful crap),
Wait, who said anything about toilets? Did you... keep reading my post when you said you stopped?? LOL
but the fact is still that the U.S. also has the military it has, so whatever PRC needs to spend to match and surpass whas U.S. has, is what the PRC needs to spend.
EXACTLY. This is a very correct statement and very different from your original statement. You originally stated that to win, China needs to spend more than the US. That is wrong. The correct statement is that China needs to spend whatever it needs to spend to surpass the US; the number is much smaller because China is much more efficient and that's what it's doing.
If the PRC had more military assets - lets say twice of what PRC has as of now, the U.S. Empire calculus would have been different, as the U.S. would be forced to bring much LESS assets against Iran.
Noooooo, the US is only attacking these other countries because it no longer has confidence confronting China so it 1) wants to vent and 2) wants to change the global landscape to be more pro-US to see if that can give it some room to maneuver with China. China having more of the same stuff wouldn't change this but China having more advanced power-projecting weapons would make the US scared to attack Chinese allies far from China. The way to develop those weapons is through research; the way to strengthen research is to strengthen the economy that supports it, and the way to strengthen that economy is to invest in it rather that spending all you can afford building more weapons now.
So once again, thanks for name calling.
You're welcome? I was just pointing out a fact. How many people do you see disagreeing with you? You should have figured it out yourself.
I do know for a fact that what PRC is spending is simply too low.
Imbecile facts... the PRC knows the balance between investment and building weapons. That balance has led China to surpass the US in quality in many aspects where we trailed severely decades ago, all while spending less than 2%. That is the goal and we're gonna have to trust them instead of a dude who thinks North Korea is boss cus it spends a third of its GDP only outdated old weapon designs.
There is no discussion about it when you have an economy that has reached 44 Trillion PPP, along with having the ability to build its own weapons systems.
There seems to be a huge discussion about it: everyone against you. And building your own weapons systems doesn't mean you stop investing in the future. 30% military spending is no longer investing in the future.
 
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