2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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MMelon

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A lot of the hubris and ignorance stems from people not realizing Iran is basically the size of Western Europe, but pretty much all mountains, with a population almost 1/3rd that of the US. The map distortions from Mercator projection really warped people's minds and perceptions.
 

defenceman

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Hi,
india already been adjusted and given green light from trump for a Russian oil probably temporarily
for a month time period as their own defence chief acknowledged in a interview about oil flow from
Russia & we are thankful for Israel‘s support to let us have Russian oil so india in covered if you go
through recent visit of modi for Israel you will come to know they both already have foreseen USA attacking
iran and oil shortage prices go up bla bla on a side note very soon trump will allow Russian gas flow
for be temporary all depend how far Russia can go to help Iran at the moment it’s in Russian interest
as well to help them for Russian economy
thank you
 

manqiangrexue

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Precisely because Iran is not a failed state that they cannot just rely on spamming offense. Yeah sure you're embarassing the US and wasting their stockpile of precious munitions, but if in return Tehran gets turned into Gaza it's not really victory.
It's the only way they can fight and someone else already answered to the Iran Gaza comparison. They have no choice but to continue inflicting massive damage with missiles while hiding everything they care about miles underground in bunkers. It's the only way to survive and possibly win.
That's why I think eventually there will be a negotiated settlement or even a return to status quo, just as much as the US is not willing to see global oil flow grind to a halt, I really don't think the fevour is high enough in Iran that they will put themselves through the meat grinder just to fight the US to self annihilation. (Not talking about IRGC here, carpet bombing of cities is still a distinct possibility to force capitulation)
That's the old Iran. The new Iran sees that every time they talk to the US, the get bombed. So what good are negotiations? Their best work is done with their missiles, not their mouths. That's the lesson taught to them.
 

Puss in Boots

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I'm always surprised by the glee at which posters talk about the Hormuz blockade and gcc oil shutdown like they don't get affected... It sucks for everyone and supply chain ripples can only hurt everyone's bottom-line. Once strategic stockpiles run low cost of living for the average Joe would skyrocket.
Iran has been under sanctions, and what you've mentioned has no impact on Iran's situation, so Iran doesn't care!

All these consequences were caused by the United States and Israel, so can we ask Iran to give up its resistance? Our only hope is that Iran will give the US and Israel a good beating, so that these warmongers will have to think twice before launching their next attack!
Your attempt to morally blackmail Iran using the global economy is a clear case of bias. It's the US and Israel that are damaging the global economy; you should be criticizing them.
 

Serb

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A lot of the hubris and ignorance stems from people not realizing Iran is basically the size of Western Europe, but pretty much all mountains, with a population almost 1/3rd that of the US. The map distortions from Mercator projection really warped people's minds and perceptions.

They also seriously underestimate what Iran actually is at a structural level.

Instead, they still picture it as some backward Islamic barbarian state, when in reality it is in the top 10 countries in the world for yearly STEM graduates and has far more industrial power than people like to admit.

For example, Iran’s total electricity demand is around 50 times larger than Afghanistan’s, and that is after the war in AFG.

That alone should tell you the difference in scale by extension as a proxy.

And Afghanistan was the country where the US got bogged down for 20 years and still lost, despite the similar terrain, while Afghanistan had basically no serious ability to strike back and no ability to choke Hormuz.

Iran is also one of the top 10 steel producers in the world.

Afghanistan does not even produce any meaningful amount of steel.

Iran is a completely different level of problem.

There is no way the US, in its current condition across the board, survives a prolonged conflict with Iran.

I swear, some people, even here, are mentally still living 30 years in the past.
 

EmoBirb

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Looking at the Iranian Navy being sunk without really doing much of anything at great expense to Iran, with the rocket force and drone force making a good showing of themselves, I wonder why'd they even bother building boats beyond those suicide speed boats in the first place.

Even in a perfect scenario where Iran initiated hostilities with a fully prepared Navy, what did they really expect those boats to do?
Because being a coastel country at the strait means you need at the very least a green water Navy. Now the loss for them isn't huge nor unexpected, but these were still no throwaway items. Especially the corvettes.
 

Nevermore

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A modern navy is a military branch that requires the accumulation of several generations to build. For a modern navy to defeat enemies in distant theaters far from its homeland, it must establish a vast naval system, as exemplified by the United States and China. Iran's naval development is geared toward a more distant future—a time when Iran may emerge as a powerful modern nation possessing a systematic, modernized blue-water navy.
While employing inexpensive small craft can create asymmetric warfare capabilities during wartime, they cannot execute the distant-sea operations required of major naval powers. Small vessels also face significant disadvantages during coastal patrols. Furthermore, relying solely on asymmetric small craft disrupts the upgrade and iteration cycles essential for a blue-water navy. As I previously stated, building a modern navy demands the accumulation of expertise over multiple generations. If Iran were to adopt an exclusively asymmetric warfare approach from the outset, it would forever remain incapable of developing its own modern blue-water fleet.
 

tankphobia

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Iran has been under sanctions, and what you've mentioned has no impact on Iran's situation, so Iran doesn't care!

All these consequences were caused by the United States and Israel, so can we ask Iran to give up its resistance? Our only hope is that Iran will give the US and Israel a good beating, so that these warmongers will have to think twice before launching their next attack!
Your attempt to morally blackmail Iran using the global economy is a clear case of bias. It's the US and Israel that are damaging the global economy; you should be criticizing them.
Blackmail what? I'm a nobody on a niche corner of the internet. Neither me malding about Iran or the US will amount to anything.

I'm just pointing out that blocking crucial energy routes actually do affect more than just the US and the West. In fact it will disproportionately affect the global south as the majority of them are nowhere near energy self sufficient and do not have the treasury to fight for what's little is on the market.
 
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