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siegecrossbow

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What do you guys think of Longshot?
It seems decent on globemasters as they can increase the number of drones flying with limited runways.

If you can get legit CCAs why do you need middlemen like these? Kinematics of the carrier platform can mean a lot to the flight envelope of the missile carried. Technically JF-17 block 3 has PL-15 integrated too but J-10C fired the actual shots. Why?
 

another505

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If you can get legit CCAs why do you need middlemen like these? Kinematics of the carrier platform can mean a lot to the flight envelope of the missile carried. Technically JF-17 block 3 has PL-15 integrated too but J-10C fired the actual shots. Why?
Globemaster has longer range than cca so it can compensate for lack of safe runways in 1ic. Thats the biggest benefit I see. It doesnt work for china because china has all the AB needed in the region.
 

valysre

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Globemaster has longer range than cca so it can compensate for lack of safe runways in 1ic. Thats the biggest benefit I see. It doesnt work for china because china has all the AB needed in the region.
The Americans will have a devil of a time bringing a Globemaster into a position to fire, and bring it back out again safely. Consider that missiles fired by this system, as mentioned by siege, do not have the forward momentum imparted by their firing platform and their flight envelopes suffer accordingly.

The question really is not so much of safe runways as it is of safe airspace, particularly for such big and slow things as a Globemaster.
 

another505

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The Americans will have a devil of a time bringing a Globemaster into a position to fire, and bring it back out again safely. Consider that missiles fired by this system, as mentioned by siege, do not have the forward momentum imparted by their firing platform and their flight envelopes suffer accordingly.

The question really is not so much of safe runways as it is of safe airspace, particularly for such big and slow things as a Globemaster.
In twz article, their plan is that drone is disposable. I think the globemaster can fly from further bases and arrive behind the front line, drop them from the sky and evac.

Its not perfect, as you two have said the subsonic drone will have less kinematic range for their missile but i do think it is a decent compensation for their weaknesses in basing
 

siegecrossbow

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In twz article, their plan is that drone is disposable. I think the globemaster can fly from further bases and arrive behind the front line, drop them from the sky and evac.

Its not perfect, as you two have said the subsonic drone will have less kinematic range for their missile but i do think it is a decent compensation for their weaknesses in basing
Only if they cost less than Chinese air superiority drones. If not it will just end up being a turkey shoot.
 

Nautilus

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I don’t see how the two incidents are comparable. In PLAN’s case two Chinese warships collided while maneuvering against a smaller, much more agile target whereas here you don’t have any hostile target, the sea is calm with great visibility, and two friendly ships just started playing bumper ships with one another for no good reason. This is not to
Mention that instead of taking any remedial measures or self protection measures some of the sailors started recording the thing on their own phones… If this is not a sign of bad discipline I don’t know what is…
Incomparable yes but because the Chinese collision was much worse with possible deaths and similarly entirely avoidable. Both however are cases of gross incompetence (unless it turns out that the steering broke or something).
 

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Here’s how the Army says it will work:

Senior warrant officers hoping to receive a bonus for extending their active duty service commitment will submit confidential “bids,” which represent the minimum monthly paycheck bump each soldier “would be satisfied receiving” to sign a new six -year contract.

Once all eligible warrant officers submit their bids, Army officials will determine both the amount of the bonus payment and who will receive it by calculating the auction’s “market-clearing” rate, a concept used widely in economics and finance. In that process, the “winning” bid is the bonus amount that would spread all of the program’s funding for the year among the most soldiers who agreed to accept a payment that size or smaller with their bids (all soldiers who win in the auction will receive the winning bonus, even if their bid was lower).

Those who bid too high get nothing.

Pure capitalism madness.
 
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