14-meter outer diameter hull means slightly larger than Borei class and Ohio SSBN as well.
with these tender announcement and soyo post as well. looks like construction of first Unit has started.
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09V/09VI (095/096) Nuclear Submarine Thread
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with these tender announcement and soyo post as well. looks like construction of first Unit has started.
What guancha folk said was that JL-3 has an obvious range requirement that it must reach, so its payload will obviously need to be sacrificed to satisfy that range requirement.
JL-4 will obviously need to be larger than any known SLBMs. It needs to carry same number of warheads and have to be able to reach all of CONUS from SCS. Neither the Russians nor the Americans have the same requirements. hence, their SLBM don't need to have as long range.
But does it really matter if it has a bulge on the top? Maybe that won't be the most hydrodynamic configuration, but they should have more powerful SMR by then? And SSBNs aren't expected to go that fast anyways.
JL-4 will obviously need to be larger than any known SLBMs. It needs to carry same number of warheads and have to be able to reach all of CONUS from SCS. Neither the Russians nor the Americans have the same requirements. hence, their SLBM don't need to have as long range.
But does it really matter if it has a bulge on the top? Maybe that won't be the most hydrodynamic configuration, but they should have more powerful SMR by then? And SSBNs aren't expected to go that fast anyways.
Borei is double hull and the diameter is given as 13.5 m, single hull Ohio is 13 m. Borei-A has no "bump" which corresponds well with R-30 Bulava SLBM being 12.1 m long. If it had to house R-39, the outer hull superstructure would be enormous.
The throw weight requirements imposed if you want both the SCS to serve as the main bastion and range all of CONUS with many RVs are extremely high. From mid-SCS to FL is well over 14000km, even if you relax that to ranging DC or the upper southern US states from SCS it's still above 13500km. For reference the 60t D5 tops out at ~7500km with a full load of 8 Mk5s, offloading by half (~4 Mk5/8 Mk4a) only brings that to ~11000-11500km. It's just not practical to have an SLBM much larger than that, even dimensions aside such massive mass loss when each SLBM is ejected causes a sharp buoyant thrust of the sub which needs to be corrected before the next launch, stretching out salvo pacing. Assuming generally similar propellant & slightly higher weight of Chinese RVs, a D5 class or slightly larger JL-4 might be able to range most of CONUS with a mix of 4-6 heavy & light RVs from SCS, then with some missiles kept offloaded with perhaps 2-3 to range southeastern US, like how some MM3 were kept with fewer than 3 RVs during the cold war to range Central Asian targets.
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I made a 3d model of possible shape. Do we have a good knowledge on if its X-rudder or not? I haven't been following too closely on this project.
Tried mixing some style of the 094 with the Ohio. Tube layout is like in that one paper from the past.
With a Diameter of 14m, and a Length of 169m. This 3d Model has a volume of 26,400 cubic meters.
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Refined Model, Length reduced to 159m. The volume is still 24,000 cubic meters. I think shorter makes more sense as Chinese submarines have always been more stout.
No, but given that all the next-geb SSBN designs from the US, UK and France feature X-rudders (and that there are already at least one Chinese submarine with X-rudder), I think 096 SSBN having a X-rudder is a valid assumption.
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Is there any reason why I don't see fairwater planes on this sub by SOYO?
I interpreted it as either being retracted in the bow of the hull, or alternatively just a CGI that had yet to be completed.
Do we have any hints that they are on the hull instead of on the sail? I ask because I'm making the 09V based off my 09VI model with some tweaks. I put the planes on the sail.
09VI model dimensions: 14m diameter, 159m long, 23,600 cubic meter volume, 2.4m diameter VLS tube, 14m tall tube. 16 Tubes
09V model dimensions: 12m diameter, 135m long, 13,900 cubic meter volume, 2.4m diameter VLS tube, 12m tall tube. 8 Tubes
