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Excellent comment by Maitreya Bhakal: for Indians, the old cope was "India will be the next China". Now the new cope is "China wants to prevent India's rise".
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I do not think China purposely wants to prevent India's rise. On the contrary, India does want to prevent China's rise, as India sees everything as a zero sum game, much like the West. I do think China should purposely prevent India's rise. India is a nation that has learned all the wrong reasons and lessons from its colonial past. Rather than help global south countries and itself break free from economic, political, social, and psychological colonialism, India WANTS to be the next imperial power. For example, India has adopted all the terrible democratic values of the West, such as political grifting, political corruption through the oligarchs, directed propogandas at both domestic and foreign entities--one look at the scope of India's internal problems and it almost mirrors the West almost 1:1--combine that with India's domestic cultural ills and you have a very nasty aspiration for the next imperial power. Another example, is their hidden inferiority complex, manifested as a need to have the reversed role of white supremacy through this Hindutva Nationalism, to justify and play up the significance and role of Indian contribution to human progress to create a sense of self-value. You see this in action through the pictures of white people as servants/homemakers, their absurd proclamations to have created technologies from the past that Europeans and others "stole," or adopted later, or the need to revise their history to claim the Taj Mahal was built by Hindus, rather the truth be told, it was built by an Islamic Emperor Shah Jahan of the Mughal Empire. This new Hindu Nationalism, is yet another terrible lesson learned from European history in the period of the rise of Nationalism that culminated into 20th century rise of Nazi Germany and the desire to create an Aryan race.
For China, and all its neighbors, India is and should be regarded as an existential threat, because India DO have expansionist aspirations, and, why India has time and time again failed to resolve the border issue with China is not because the border issue can not be resolved, but because they do not want to resolve it. Therefore, for China and India's neighbors, should all work to balkanize India, if the global South is to have peace in the future, and China is to avoid having a powerful existential threat in the south western region that can also potentiall ally itself with other powerful enemies of China--because a powerful India will also mean Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and China's Tibet region will all be under India's expansionist aspirations to create a greater India in teh same bane as Israel's desire to create a greater Israel--no coincidence they are allies for that matter.
US: We ban you from buying even the RTX4090. lol.
China: Why?
US: Because Think Tank stooges say so.
China: don´t play that card.
US: We already did. LOL.
China: OK, we will develop our own.
US: You can´t, Think Tanker A said that TSMC bla bla bla. EUV extraterrestrial technology bla bla bla. said Think Tanker B with a degree in law.
China: We have now multiple decent GPUs that can serve as a foundation for our AI industry supply chain.
Jensen Huang: F*CK, They are developing their own AI stack without Nvidia and with the popularity of their AI models is only matter of time that develop their model without CUDA or worse in an open standard. If that happen and the AI bubble pops WE ARE DOOMED. F*CK. PLEASE DONNY LET ME SELL GPUs.
US: Ok, here China have the H20.
China: Thanks but no thanks, we are staying using our own homemade hardware, also the H20 is crap, you say you will add backdoors and in top of that you will probably block it again.
US: Wait what? You...you just reject me? WTH?
Jensen: PLEASE DONNY, LET ME SELL THE H200 BEFORE THE BUBBLE POPS.
US: Here China have H200. This is the best GPU you will ever get from us. Don't get accustomed, usually we are not this charitable.
China: Nahh, We may or may not consider buying that. We still may prefer our homegrown options thought.
US: WTF? call the Think Tankers with art degrees. We have a problem here. They are rejecting our GPUs
I don't think there's any need to "contain India." It will only rise if it can deal with those internal and cultural contradictions and it will be slow. Slow enough that it can gain wisdom before strength, especially if guided.
Reminder. Gandhi's complaint about racism wasn't that it was discrimination. It was that Indians were placed on the same level as blacks which he felt was offensive as hell.
A lot of Indians have no problem With racism, prejudice etc. They just don't like it when they're at the bottom.
Next time you hear some Indian calling you racist because you didn't praise him, just remember this. These guys are abusing the racism card so much one day everyone is gonna go 180 and become full on racists to stop feeling guilty towards them. And before you say it can't be done, remind me again how fast people acted with malice against Russians after the war started?
Eerie parallel to the opium wars. China is taking all of the US silver/money because of rapacious demand for Chinese goods. The US is trying to get China hooked on it's poisoned wares, but China is blocking them out.
imagine how may problems could be avoided if they could take all these failed think tanks out the back and shoot their sorry useless ass
Almost all of the US foreign policies disasters and a lot of the domestic policies problems can be traced back to a Think Tank or two.
Project 2025 comes from a Think Tank. The Iraq invasion, a Think Tank. US support for Netanyahu genocidal campaign, another Think Tank. These places are factories of horrible ideas for politicians who are too dumb to think for themselves.
