You need to consider that Chinese and European consumers have different tastes. Having tried an ID.4, it's a pleasant ride. Even the software is okay.
New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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I am not a Chinese (national) or European, but I expect the app to work...
How much charge do I have left? APP CANNOT CONNECT TO THE CAR
How do you solve this? When the car starts up there is a warning HIGHEST PRIVACY SETTING IS ON, REMOTE FUNCTIONS WONT WORK EXCEPT EMERGENCY SERVICES
So go to the car's privacy settings, and try to change it... Surprise! It cannot be toggled...
When the app used to work (a few months ago), it used to warn DOORS UNLOCKED
Can I lock from the app...? Nope! (The higher end platform is able to)
Warm up the car when its -20C outside? APP CANT CONNECT TO THE CAR
Of course you don't NEED the app to drive, but if we are looking at a 2025 driving experience, this is not it. BYD, Hyundai, Tesla, you can use the phone as a key, no need for the bulky fob. If you have a smart lock at home, you could leave most physical keys at home and not have a million things in your pocket. Can I wait in a parking lot and Airplay something to the screen while I sip a coffee or finish a snack? Nope... Are there any extra cameras? Nope
I might sound super critical, but actually I would say I am fine with the car overall. It's just that it feels like a car from 2015 just with an EV powertrain.
Europeans failed the IQ tests which checks if they understand ability to sell the same quality product at a much lower price also means ability to sell a much higher quality product at same price.
For years they were convinced the competition is only for mass market vehicles, they really bought into the delusion that their brand has intrinsic value without the need to back it up with actual products, and even now they still think it's a cost problem even as they're losing on both high and low end, because it's really a value problem.
Without solving value, cutting cost just means you build a shitbox that further destroys their brand, this is exactly what's happening.
The only good and realistic advice quoted in the entire article is, basically, to move to China and become Chinese.
I just saw an interesting video that provides a behind-the-scenes looking at the home and training camp of UFC Champion Islam Makhachev. I know it is a bit off topic, but I was surprised to see him driving a Fangchengbao Leopard 5 around Dagestani mountain roads. I don't think the brand even has dealerships in Russia, so he must have paid extra to get it imported instead of just getting a GWM or Chery SUV. If not for the political issues, this could have been a great sponsorship for BYD.
supercat
Colonel
For those who have the patience:
Full report:
Nonsensical anti-China tweet of the day, the electric bus version:
GAC Aion UT Super is a battery EV developed by GAC in cooperation with CATL and JD.com. It has CATL's Choco-SEB (swapping electric block) battery swap technology and its battery pack can be swapped under 2 minutes. Its starting price is $7,000 if the buyer choose to lease the battery for $56 a month.
Twitter summary:
Full report:
Nonsensical anti-China tweet of the day, the electric bus version:
GAC Aion UT Super is a battery EV developed by GAC in cooperation with CATL and JD.com. It has CATL's Choco-SEB (swapping electric block) battery swap technology and its battery pack can be swapped under 2 minutes. Its starting price is $7,000 if the buyer choose to lease the battery for $56 a month.
supercat
Colonel
You may or may not get economically viable rare-earth-free motor. But you can't get rid of China from the supply chain.
Tesla Model Y has been the best selling electric SUV on China's domestic market for many years. It was finally beaten by Xiaomi YU7 in October.
Tesla Model Y has been the best selling electric SUV on China's domestic market for many years. It was finally beaten by Xiaomi YU7 in October.
SteelBird
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I thought it was a Xiaomi Su7 before I see the words "Dongfeng's eπ"
Xiaomi Su7 catches fire after unloading from trailer. Reasons of the incident have not been clarified. However, I think it's the fault of the battery. Maybe people should check about battery safety again.
Xiaomi Su7 catches fire after unloading from trailer. Reasons of the incident have not been clarified. However, I think it's the fault of the battery. Maybe people should check about battery safety again.
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