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AECC booth at a Jilin provincial industrial exhibit.

800kW and 3MW turbine-electric hybrid power systems:
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The rest are various previously seen engines (including the new F918 turbofan), various components, and design/smiluation software:
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tphuang

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there was also a 60kW hybrid motor.
this is truly interesting stuff that they are showcasing these larger hybrid electric turbine at same time as AEP/S/F-100 engines that are about to join service. would lend credence that they are more mature than one might otherwise think
 

taxiya

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I don’t understand how this works. In a hybrid turbofan electrical power can be used to drive the fan. What does it do here?
A paper on 80KW counterpart
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iirc it's basically a electric transmission instead of a conventional gearbox for a turboprop.
plus (battery) energy storage which is the key of the idea.

The propeller is solely driven by the electric motor with electricity provided by both the generator directly and battery packs. Battery only kicks in during takeoff and situation when max power is needed because cruising uses much lower power than takeoff. GT engines are only optimized at a certain power level, any extra power margine (for takeoff) leads to lower efficiency at cruising speed. This hybrid engine is essentially taking the same advantage of IEPS in ships and the missile TEL viechle and Type 100 tank, to lower the max power demand of ICE/GT engine to save fuel and increase range.
 

tphuang

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Anytime that you can separate the power generation and consumption through some kind of battery system, you are going to get greater efficiency in fuel consumption.

similarly, you get greater efficiency and less losses on a electric driven system operating at high voltage platform vs mechanical one. It is also more compact if you use a higher voltage platform so you can save space and weight for other stuff.
 

sunnymaxi

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on Weibo, AECC celebrate National day with this specific poster and congratulation to entire Chinese Nation.

they specifically mentioned Chinese heart, Chinese dream!

they have choose CJ-1000A Engine on this poster. this is an indirect massage about the arrival of this machine. looks like certification has accelerated and i believe we are close to the first flight of CJ-1000 with C919.. finger crossed

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Note - sorry for being late, coz i just saw this post on Weibo. thanks
 

CaribouTruth

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Rough translation
Performance parameters of a certain advanced medium-thrust engine: Maximum sea-level takeoff thrust: 10-11 tons Turbine inlet temperature: 1950-2100K Image source: See watermark
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Really encouraging turbine inlet temp.

Edit: Reading a bit more, I'm going to be a bit cautious and assume that this is just a preliminary list of requirements/goals rather than something currently being tested.

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Alfa_Particle

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Rough translation
Performance parameters of a certain advanced medium-thrust engine: Maximum sea-level takeoff thrust: 10-11 tons Turbine inlet temperature: 1950-2100K Image source: See watermark
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Really encouraging turbine inlet temp.

Edit: Reading a bit more, I'm going to be a bit cautious and assume that this is just a preliminary list of requirements/goals rather than something currently being tested.

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- High TWR
- Max static takeoff thrust: 10-11,000 kgf
- T4: 1950-2100 K
- 15-20%/30% decrease in fuel consumption compared to last-gen engines in the same class (TWR 8, WS-21?)
- 20%/50% improvement in reliability
- cost improvements

Jeez. Two of these would absolutely wreck an F135.
 

sequ

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Rough translation
Performance parameters of a certain advanced medium-thrust engine: Maximum sea-level takeoff thrust: 10-11 tons Turbine inlet temperature: 1950-2100K Image source: See watermark
____
Really encouraging turbine inlet temp.

Edit: Reading a bit more, I'm going to be a bit cautious and assume that this is just a preliminary list of requirements/goals rather than something currently being tested.

G2e1s5naoAAvHBy
WS-19?
 
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