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pmc

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Well, all power lasts only until a coup, as we all know. It was 36 years ago for us, for example.
Have you tried to imagine replacing a million workers? And the Indians are quite qualified. Training, drills, handing over agendas ... The Filipinos are there, but they only do the most menial jobs.
To confess, a very close relative there and not long ago worked as a trainer for the armed forces. And he told me a lot about it.
By the way, I didn't write "hungry" but they will "starve" if no one works for them. I don't mean that literally. Surely the entire democratic world would come to the aid of the poor Saudis and help them manage their foreign exchange reserves :). And those Indians there are definitely not starving, they earn enough for their circumstances.
Forgive my bad English, I haven't used it for 25 years... Maybe that's why we didn't understand each other. I meant it as a pun and it just hit me hard... :)
Saudi are very favorable to people who has dim view of India. This Tucker after Putin interview visited these Gulf emirates.
India is fully entrapped in Arabic economic and Aviation system.

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February 5, 2025 at 4:10 pm
 

taxiya

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So for example, in event of US use Saudi Bases or airspace to attack lran, and lran retaliates, it will be seen as attack to pak?

Same of its lsr or lndia?
Not long ago both Iran and Pakistan bombed entities in each other's territory, none of those bombing led to anything other than diplomatic exchanges. US, Israel and India are that kind of entities.

Besides, with Iran and SA's reconsiliation agreement mediated by China, SA is not going to allow US using SA soil or airspace to attack Iran in the first place. It is not only breaching agreement with Iran but also China. USA is a rouge but SA knows what it is doing. In the event of such unlikely scenario, Pakistan has no obligation to aid defend such "wrong doing", afterall the depence pack would not cover unwanted "guest".

Also is this an indirect def agreement w CN?
Hehe, the dots are there for anyone to imagine and China isn't denying or confirming. But it is too obvious to miss the point.
 
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_killuminati_

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Paks can provide the security, if Saudis provide the money to pay for J-35A and enough HQ-xx missiles to shut down Brahmos attacks. We can't expect PAF to fight Israeli F-35 with only J-10s can we?

Maybe a PAF air/naval base on the Saudi coast too.
I suspect Israel isn't the only thing the Saudi monarchy is worried about. There is also the domestic population, the majority Hanbali which doesn't align with the minority Wahhabi. Saudis are very tribal and the Wahhabi ruling class is a big minority holding the tribes together in a fragile confederation built on US security support. Unlike Qatar, if US was to lift support of KSA, civil war would ensue before Israel even entered the chat. And if Israel entered at this time, it would make quick territorial gains (as they’ve planned in the Greater Israel project, some renditions of which reach down to Madinah - an Islamic holy site).

Israel going after China directly rather than through their American host would be the funniest thing.
It's as though even they're eager for China to do more for ME peace
At this point, it is clear the US is run by Israel; it's not a conspiracy any more, so it doesn't really make any difference. Jewish billionaire Rothschilds created Israel and Jewish billionaires today fund every political campaign on US soil, hence why you have this massive American political delegation sitting in Israel or high ranking American politicians at the Wailing Wall.

I think I read somewhere that most Indian workers coming to the Arab states are Muslims. They probably discourage Hindu workers from coming in. Those Muslims workers have no reason to back a Hindu nationalist India against Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Majority are Hindu. ⅓ is Muslim. Saudis are somewhat racist and find it easier to discriminate against the non-Muslim worker.

Oh, you probably haven't experienced a strike. I have. Even in my own company. There, reason goes to the side. And if you say something they don't like, they start shouting and don't listen to anything. And that was only 250 people.
And when a crowd walks the streets, they don't think and just destroy and shout their demagoguery. And a few people incite it. See the color revolutions. Or the coup 36 years ago in my country. Which was still quite peaceful. But they didn't hear any argument. It's good that our communists had enough sense and quickly handed over the government, otherwise there would have been bloodshed like in many other countries. And people could have lost everything too.
I'm going to bed. It's 2 o'clock in the morning here. Let's keep our opinions to ourselves.
I think you are not aware that most migrant workers in Gulf monarchies live in squalor conditions and misery. They do not have unions or mutual platforms to decide their fate on. They're incapable of organizing a strike. Most of them probably do not even know what's happening in the political world. South Asian lower classes are a very, very primitive group of people, ideal for slave labor. Saudi citizens themselves find it difficult to strike; government has very tight control. And Indians like to exaggerate and falsely boast about their people when speaking to foreigners. Reminds me of this one Indian lady I met on the subway. She was telling me India is very advanced and they no longer have villages or mud-built homes in rural areas.

As someone who used both Filipino tech support as well as Indian tech support, Filipino tech support is like heaven. Like they have better English, better attitude and actually try to solve your problem. I heard companies are slowly expanding Filipino tech support as well as accounting quietly. We also know Filipinos in America are one of the highest earning people coz they work in nursing which is in high demand. There's no bsing around when it comes to human lives.

Even though Filipinos are against China right now and are annoying as hell, I find it rather insulting to say Indian workers are qualified while deriding Filipinos as less qualified. I would argue when it actually comes to doing a proper technical stuff Filipinos are better esp without the entitled attitude and if they replaced Indians, no one would miss them. In fact their experience would be better.

Fun fact, India has no medalists in Google Code Jam. Philippines has a silver medalist. Isn't India's bread and butter suppose to be coding?
In all my travels to the Gulf, the Filipinos are the most skilled workers after Egyptians. They are what these Arabs put as the front-end who have to communicate with others and they dominate the hospitality industry - speak good English, have good manners and etiquette.
 
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