2025 Victory Day parade thread (workup, 3rd Sept)

[Deino]

Not sure what this could be, as I don't have the complete image to judge its size. However, the body appears to have reduced RCS features. Perhaps a stealthy anti-ship/anti-surface cruise missile?

Crosspost from the naval thread: That is exactly the image I got a few days ago labelled as a new stealthy cruise missile, but maybe also as a stealthy KD-20/20A replacement?

 

[Jason_]

Just a quick size comparison I did.

 

[SanWenYu]

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Just a quick size comparison I did.

The missile engine is air breathing right? Don't you need to enclose the missile in a water tight container to launch it underwater?

 

[siegecrossbow]

The missile engine is air breathing right? Don't you need to enclose the missile in a water tight container to launch it underwater?

You can have an air tight cover over the nose and intake of the missile that detached once the missile has left water.

 

[donnnage99]

Possible items

1. IFV with vertical drone launch and recovery system

2. Fully operational supersonic stealth UCAV

3. Long range, stealthy, loitering munitions

4. Powered exoskeleton

5. Ground based, 500kw directed energy weapon

6. Reusable VTVL launcher for hypersonic weapons

7. Intercontinental air launched hypersonic glide vehicle

8. H20 revealed to be not only VLO but also SSTO, using pulse detonation engines, and capable of reaching Washington DC from Harbin unrefueled in less than 90 minutes, with a 20 ton payload

This isn't a fan fic forum bud. Also if it's reaching Washington DC in 90mins it's not VLO. it's a flying fireball on every Infrared sensors out there.

 

[SanWenYu]

You can have an air tight cover over the nose and intake of the missile that detached once the missile has left water.

That air tight cover would still have a larger diameter than the missile which is already measured to be as thick as that torpedo.

 

[phrozenflame]

The marking on the truck is ZL (战略/strategic) as opposed to HZ (海战/naval warfare), so it is likely intended to be a long-range nuclear tipped subsonic cruise missile. It could be launched from the 093B’s VLS, a ground launcher, or H-6N/K.

But as the Russo-Ukraine war has shown, subsonic cruise missile are big fat targets for SAMs, so I am not sure why the PLA is still sticking it.

Deplete SAMs.

 

[siegecrossbow]

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Official spokesperson confirms that all the equipment display are new equipment in service with the PLA.

 

[ougoah]

This is what I didn't understand from this forum since GJ-11's parade 6 years ago.

GJ-11's Sharp Sword program prototype was shown flying since 2013. This means it could have been flying before 2013. GJ-11 program and evaluation during service hints were leaked well before 2019. Yet the sensible consensus on this forum still did not agree that GJ-11 was in active service.

Is it a logical test that a platform is only in service if it's shown to be flying in service and announced officially? It's clear that GJ-11 was simply never shown off as much as say J-20 because it was deemed to be more of a security risk. They didn't have GJ-11 replacements ready and possibly also wasn't sure about the direction they wanted to take the whole CCA ecosystem.

We now know that DF-100/ CJ-1000 missiles were left behind in favour of DF-26 and DF-21D with only small orders of DF-100s reaching service. GJ-11 could have been a similar situation. There were so many more promising directions and platforms they wanted to explore and ready first before revealing much more of the GJ-11. Maybe it was to do with its autonomy and the older GJ-11s are not the same as the newer GJ-11s. Who knows.

 

[AsuraGodFiend]

This is what I didn't understand from this forum since GJ-11's parade 6 years ago.

GJ-11's Sharp Sword program prototype was shown flying since 2013. This means it could have been flying before 2013. GJ-11 program and evaluation during service hints were leaked well before 2019. Yet the sensible consensus on this forum still did not agree that GJ-11 was in active service.

Is it a logical test that a platform is only in service if it's shown to be flying in service and announced officially? It's clear that GJ-11 was simply never shown off as much as say J-20 because it was deemed to be more of a security risk. They didn't have GJ-11 replacements ready and possibly also wasn't sure about the direction they wanted to take the whole CCA ecosystem.

We now know that DF-100/ CJ-1000 missiles were left behind in favour of DF-26 and DF-21D with only small orders of DF-100s reaching service. GJ-11 could have been a similar situation. There were so many more promising directions and platforms they wanted to explore and ready first before revealing much more of the GJ-11. Maybe it was to do with its autonomy and the older GJ-11s are not the same as the newer GJ-11s. Who knows.

There's vids of gj11 flying around for months so it's obviously in service since 2019