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tamsen_ikard said:
China's track record is that they have caved to Trump many times before in the first term. They did the trade deal with Liu He that was completely unequal. They did the ZTE deal. This time the 30 vs 10% deal is also unequal.

Even if in the long run China has gained by adapting to US actions but the fact of the matter is China keeps bowing down to US atleast publicly. That's not good.
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But that is part of the strategy.

What is the Chinese trade surplus. No one wants to talk about that, including the Chinese. Haha!

The Chinese strategy here, was not to eliminate the United States, but to advance Chinese interests.

This is the part where people do not understand because it is counter-intuitive, and the Chinese like to gamble.

The strategy or a portion of it, is to given an inch and then try to extract a mile. Why does the Chinese take chances? They did their homework and like to gamble.

The story of the trade surplus is the real story.

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plawolf

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Licenses are also just the beginning. Even if licences are granted, it would be super easy for China to throw up countless other delays and restrictions. Nobody can do death by red tape like the Chinese, as I’m sure the American MIC is about to find out expensively and in great detail.
 
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iewgnem

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tamsen_ikard said:
China's track record is that they have caved to Trump many times before in the first term. They did the trade deal with Liu He that was completely unequal. They did the ZTE deal. This time the 30 vs 10% deal is also unequal.

Even if in the long run China has gained by adapting to US actions but the fact of the matter is China keeps bowing down to US atleast publicly. That's not good.
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Americans will claim they won even when they're getting annihilated, China just doesn't bother correcting them most of the time.
Case in point Americans are currently claiming unequal tariff win by pretending China's tariffs on US energy and agricultural exports in retaliation to the fentanyl tariff doesn't exist, and they will continue until farmers start crying next season.
US also pretended RE export restrictions since April didn't exist when Trump did his "reset", which was totally not a surrender, until 2 weeks ago when their automakers started panicking.
During the tech war China would never consider receiving a 6 month Nvidia import permit with strict end use restrictions as a win, but America are over RE that has far bigger impact than GPUs.

When your enemy punch themselves in the face and claim victory, you don't stop his punch just so he can't claim victory, or worse punch yourself in the face because you have to react symetrically.
 
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iewgnem

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plawolf said:
Licenses are also just the beginning. Even if licences are granted, it would be super easy for China to throw up countless other delays and restrictions. Nobody can do death by red tape like the Chinese, as I’m sure the American MIC is about to find out expensively and in great detail.
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The interpretation that China is expediting license review in exchange for US dropping all new restrictions is already a very generious interpreatation for the US.

Because there were no indication that China weren't granting any between April and May, not until just a week or two ago, there's no reason to believe the unofficial pause in license grants to technically permitted users weren't retaliation to US pressure attempts.

If you strictly follow news cycle timeline, the actual sequence of events was:
1 - China implemented export control in April, US companies started applying for license and China started working through applications, granting them in accordance to rules.
2 - Because China wasn't granting any to western defence contractors and started cracking down on smuggling immediately after Geneva, Trump started to put up new restrictions on China to put pressure.
3 - China RESPONDED to Trump's new restriction by unofficially pausing all US application review even for automakers
4 - US industry started to panic after China paused all review
5 - Finally Trump was forced to abandons pressure against China's export control system in order to save automakeres, taking the 6 month reprive as a win, even though per all statements China's April export control started off with no time limit given to US automakers.

In other words Trump's attempt to pressure China was punished and turned otherwise peremitted automotive licenses into a time-limitd one.
 
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US reviewing Aukus submarine pact as part of 'America First' agenda
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The US has launched a review of its multi-billion dollar submarine deal with the UK and Australia, saying the security pact must fit its "America First" agenda.

Under the trilateral pact, believed to be aimed at countering China, Australia is to get its first nuclear-powered subs from the US, before the allies create a new fleet by sharing cutting-edge tech.

Both Australia and the UK - which did its own review last year - have played down news of the US probe, saying it is natural for a new administration to reassess.

The move comes as both Australia and the UK face pressure from the White House to lift military spending, demands heeded by Downing Street but largely resisted by Canberra.
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