Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

Mearex

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Let's just wait for better photos. Honestly given how aggressively AI blending distorts features I think coming out with one definitive conclusion is a pretty futile exercise for this particular image.
but I think it's safe to say that the J-36 looks nothing like the abomination that was posted a couple days ago that suspiciously spread like wildfire, which I claimed to be fake:
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Blitzo

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I'm pretty sure those slat lines are from the hanger/wall behind it

That was also my assumption as well (and tbh is still my primary belief) but the computer screen reason could explain why the slats "leak" into the image.

On the other hand, my alternative reply is -- who cares.

There are so many artefacts in this image, and modern pictures like this can have "fake" looking pictures actually be real, and have "real" looking pictures actually be fake.

Ultimately we are now more guided by the PRC pla watching grapevine for the legitimacy of new images, than our own eyes and analyses.


For this picture, imo there is enough artefact and noise that we cannot definitively call it fake or real on our own eyes, but if the PRC side is suggesting it's real, then it is good enough for me because the overall image still looks like what we should expect from this angle.

And I do strongly maintain that the overall shape of the silhouette of the aircraft is logical and the "gaps" people see is just the white parts of the aircraft's camouflage.
 

mond

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Because this photo we are seeing was taken on a computer screen, and the "slat lines" are the lines of the pixels of the computer screen.
probably a parachute hatch (

It's gotta be either a hatch we haven't seen before, or just a maintenance worker's behind. Those slats are definitely corrugated metal of the hangar behind it, that's really not how aliasing lines on a monitor look (much too large and uniform). Also judging from side profile I quoted earlier, the central intake manifold is very straight (almost cylindrical) and tapers rapidly, and the way it is "extruded" is even steeper than the side engine nacelles. From this angle it should be hardly visible. There is simply no geometrically sensical way for that to be part of the actual fuselage.

Lastly, there is no white camouflage on the left side of the jet as we saw from the "chengdu" image, so unless this image is mirrored, there should not be any white camo of that shape on the left side. Not only that, but as mentioned earlier the slats bleed into the white part -- the reason they aren't obvious immediately by eye is due to atmospheric distortion due to what looks like heat plumes presumably from idling/still hot engines.
 

CaribouTruth

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That was also my assumption as well (and tbh is still my primary belief) but the computer screen reason could explain why the slats "leak" into the image.

On the other hand, my alternative reply is -- who cares.

There are so many artefacts in this image, and modern pictures like this can have "fake" looking pictures actually be real, and have "real" looking pictures actually be fake.

Ultimately we are now more guided by the PRC pla watching grapevine for the legitimacy of new images, than our own eyes and analyses.


For this picture, imo there is enough artefact and noise that we cannot definitively call it fake or real on our own eyes, but if the PRC side is suggesting it's real, then it is good enough for me because the overall image still looks like what we should expect from this angle.

And I do strongly maintain that the overall shape of the silhouette of the aircraft is logical and the "gaps" people see is just the white parts of the aircraft's camouflage.
The slats "leak" into the body because the "AI enhancer" couldn't differentiate between the body and the background.
 

Blitzo

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It's gotta be either a hatch we haven't seen before, or just a maintenance worker's behind. Those slats are definitely corrugated metal of the hangar behind it, that's really not how aliasing lines on a monitor look (much too large and uniform). Also judging from side profile I quoted earlier, the central intake manifold is very straight (almost cylindrical) and tapers rapidly, and the way it is "extruded" is even steeper than the side engine nacelles. From this angle it should be hardly visible. There is simply no geometrically sensical way for that to be part of the actual fuselage.

What specific hatch are you and others talking about? Because I've been looking at the images and there's nothing which stands out

As for the slats, I agree it is more likely that it is part of the hangar/wall/background. But the "leakage" into the white part is likely image artefact or software issues.


Lastly, there is no white camouflage on the left side of the jet as we saw from the "chengdu" image, so unless this image is mirrored, there should not be any white camo of that shape on the left side. Not only that, but as mentioned earlier the slats bleed into the white part -- the reason they aren't obvious immediately by eye is due to atmospheric distortion due to what looks like heat plumes presumably from idling/still hot engines.

There definitely is white camouflage on both the left and right sides of the J-36's dorsal airframe... The white camouflage on both sides of the J-36 are asymmetrical in shape, but they are definitely there.
 
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