Chinese Engine Development

sndef888

Captain
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Hows the WS15 coming along?

Heard so much about it last year I thought we'd be seeing widespread adoption in J20 by now. But seems to be a bi lt quiet recently
 

ACuriousPLAFan

Brigadier
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@爱若丰狂SOYO历 attended the 2025 Turbine Expo at Ningbo earlier today. Apparently, the expo prohibits any sorts of photo and video media inside the venue to be shared outside.

Here is one of the key points from the expo presentation which are relevant to this thread:



3. Currently, within the aviation engine industry, the focus is no longer solely on catching up with any specific models like the F119 or any other single generation of engines. Instead, the emphasis is on utilizing new technologies and materials across the entire system to achieve comprehensive progress and breakthroughs.



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sunnymaxi

Major
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@爱若丰狂SOYO历 attended the 2025 Turbine Expo at Ningbo earlier today. Apparently, the expo prohibits any sorts of photo and video media inside the venue to be shared outside.

Here is one of the key points from the expo presentation which are relevant to this thread:



3. Currently, within the aviation engine industry, the focus is no longer solely on catching up with any specific models like the F119 or any other single generation of engines. Instead, the emphasis is on utilizing new technologies and materials across the entire system to achieve comprehensive progress and breakthroughs.



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3D printing and additively manufacturing process is China's strength. this is where the game could change.

CSSC and AECC widely adapt this new manufacturing techniques. WS-19/WS-15 and CJ-1000/CJ-2000 heavily used 3D printed parts. this is why you see CGT30/GT25000 series have caught up GE products in TBO. huge accomplishment

outside China, so far only General Electrics started to use 3D printed/additively manufacture parts-components in GE9X turbofan.
 
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gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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Told ya. They waited until the C919 was in production and then screwed COMAC. They did the same to the Russian MC-21. Once they got a flying prototype they first sanctioned composites, and when Russia replace those they sanctioned the rest.

Boeing plays dirty. Look at what happened to Bombardier and their own whistleblowers.

China should counter this by making their own parts to maintain Boeing aircraft. And screw over Boeing's revenue with regards to parts and maintenance. It is no good to wait for the US to sanction aircraft parts in an attempt to ground China's fleet. Which is likely to come next. Better to act preemptively. Counter-sanctions.

Efforts to make C909 and C919 fully native should also accelerate. US suppliers should be banned from C929 procurement.

CJ-500 and CJ-1000 engine development should be accelerated.

China is much better poised to resist US sanctions on the aviation sector than other countries because of the high speed rail network.
 
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gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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I think when Chinese airlines stopped accepting those 737 MAX aircraft and sent them back was the last straw which gave Boeing the ammo to convince US legislators. But it would have happened eventually regardless. The 737 is an obsolete design. The low mounted engines mean you get a lower engine bypass ratio, and the avionics are also arcane. It still does not have proper fly by wire.
 
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