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Mt1701d

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The US still gives out carrots even if it has a much bigger stick.

India is more like Israel in the sense it feels entitled to everything while giving nothing.

Actually even Israel might not be as bad because they are merchants first so they know how to hedge their risk.
Well remember how the Indians have always said that they learn and build but never reverse engineer, I guess that thinking has seeped through, they learned and copied the parts they like and not the parts that make it work.
 

horse

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This guy is unhinge. I don't think he understand how market economics work.

This is my theory.

We got to remember Trump was a pampered and spoiled rich kid.

He probably never passed, and could have gotten some immigrant to write his graduation exams for him.

The only time it seemed he made money was having his Chinese partners bail him out.

That is American capitalism. Capital comes first, regardless of how well the brain works.
 

hifisnow

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Despite the massive Indian diaspora, I don't see much influence. Remember H1B reform? Dead in the water. Indian "influence operations" mostly revolves around spamming people with hate on Twitter. Doesn't seem very efficient.

Honestly, China's influence in the West is minimal too, but at least Chinese people are aware of this and don't go on deluded rants about their influence in the diaspora. Indian megalomania really is unique.

And speaking of India, how can we stop China from trying to prevent India's inevitable rise?

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The truth is much more simple. China's human capital is simply vastly higher than India's. The few elites India produces mostly just emigrate anyway. But Noah seems to have a very US-centric worldview where a country's industrialisation is dependent on the good graces of larger countries. This is a weird leftist narrative which divides people into haves and have-nots, or oppressors and victims. Strange to see it coming from neoliberals like him.
Noah Smith is interesting because I think he is the embodiment of American Bidenist, vile, constantly claiming moral high ground, also just not very smart. It's beautiful that this and Elon are the only two real choices for Americans
 

GulfLander

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Despite the massive Indian diaspora, I don't see much influence. Remember H1B reform? Dead in the water. Indian "influence operations" mostly revolves around spamming people with hate on Twitter. Doesn't seem very efficient.

Honestly, China's influence in the West is minimal too, but at least Chinese people are aware of this and don't go on deluded rants about their influence in the diaspora. Indian megalomania really is unique.

And speaking of India, how can we stop China from trying to prevent India's inevitable rise?

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The truth is much more simple. China's human capital is simply vastly higher than India's. The few elites India produces mostly just emigrate anyway. But Noah seems to have a very US-centric worldview where a country's industrialisation is dependent on the good graces of larger countries. This is a weird leftist narrative which divides people into haves and have-nots, or oppressors and victims. Strange to see it coming from neoliberals like him.
Werent Ind14n embassy rejecting visa applicaxns from CN engrs b4?
 

Randomuser

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Well remember how the Indians have always said that they learn and build but never reverse engineer, I guess that thinking has seeped through, they learned and copied the parts they like and not the parts that make it work.
I don't think India actually likes building. Thats why most of their weapons are imported from other countries instead of making their own stuff. Hearing them boast about gaining manufacturing sounds very uncharacteristic because not too long ago they were boasting about doing white collar work while China and Vietnam slave away in factories.

When India talks about how it loves Engineering, it really loves computer science only. Don't need to get out there and do dirty work like civil or mech engineers. We got huge ass libraries and places like stack overflow to minimize the work done.
 
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Mt1701d

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I don't think India actually likes building. Thats why most of their weapons are imported from other countries instead of making their own stuff. Hearing them boast about gaining manufacturing sounds very uncharacteristic because not too long ago they were boasting about doing white collar work while China and Vietnam slave away in factories.

When India talks about how it loves Engineering, it really loves computer science only. Don't need to get out there and do dirty work like civil or mech engineeers.
I think this depends on the people, there are some Indians that are good at engineering, considering they got a space program working for the budget they have. There are also some respectable manufacturers in India. I just think their political class is the real problem, making things difficult for their own personal gains.

On the weapons front, importing is a much easier way for them to get something on the side. When you have very big numbers in these deals you can probably squeeze something out of it. With all the bean counting they do, actually manufacturing something will make it harder for the politicians to pocket a good sum.

With things around the world moving as they are, even those white collars jobs are about to go the way of AI. I don’t really see how India will survive as a country in the next 50 years, when even more advanced economies are having headaches about this coming transition.
 

GZDRefugee

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Despite the massive Indian diaspora, I don't see much influence. Remember H1B reform? Dead in the water. Indian "influence operations" mostly revolves around spamming people with hate on Twitter. Doesn't seem very efficient.

Honestly, China's influence in the West is minimal too, but at least Chinese people are aware of this and don't go on deluded rants about their influence in the diaspora. Indian megalomania really is unique.

And speaking of India, how can we stop China from trying to prevent India's inevitable rise?

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The truth is much more simple. China's human capital is simply vastly higher than India's. The few elites India produces mostly just emigrate anyway. But Noah seems to have a very US-centric worldview where a country's industrialisation is dependent on the good graces of larger countries. This is a weird leftist narrative which divides people into haves and have-nots, or oppressors and victims. Strange to see it coming from neoliberals like him.
No, what you see here from this twitter post is peak white saviour mentality. In his point of view, America bore the burden and saved China from itself.

It's just that China doesn't have a "Chinese saviour mentality".
 
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