The Kashmir conflict 2025.

Sardaukar20

Captain
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"We DEFINITELY did it!" is what kids would say to parents about homework when they can't show evidence. LOL

That said, some of them have learned:

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Captain Jawahar Bhagwat, former commander of INS Chakra, SSN, sent in his take on the IAF-PAF tussle in Sindoor which is worth quoting (as he sent it, almost in blank verse!):

“Saab Erieye AWACS patrolling silently
J-10C fighters flying in passive mode
PL-15E missiles—the export PL-15E, the domestic variant with over 300 km reach and Mach 5 speed—locked in and fired
The Rafale didn’t even know it was targeted until the missile was 50 km away. At that speed, the Indian pilot had 9 seconds. Not enough to react. Not enough to survive.”

The IAF presence over J&K was sparse in 2 of the 3 days. Why?

“Because every time a fighter lifts off, Pakistani radars pick it up.

Because the Erieye sees what Indian radars can’t.

Because the PL-15 launches from outside Rafale’s threat envelope.

Because the Rafale, once India’s silver bullet, has been turned into a $250 million sitting duck.The IAF now flies 300 km behind its own borders.”

And, as Captain Bhagwat correctly noted while a spendthrift IAF invested in prohibitively priced weapons platforms, like the Rafale, the PAF invested in the “kill chain” inclusive of a few J-10Cs, Saab AWACS and mostly long range A2A ordnance. Recall how the Rafale was ballyhooed by Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa, CAS at the time of the failed 2019 Balakot strike who, not too long ago rued the fact that he did not have the Rafale for that action.
Captain Bhagwat is also the same man who have talked about Bharat civilization being superior to the Chinese civilization. He advocated for India to forward-deploy nukes to the Himalayas against China. He thinks that threatening China with nukes over border disputes is a smart thing to do.

He is also a champion of "Indian-designed" jets. He boasts that the HF-24 Marut could supercruise. So naturally, he views the Tejas as a superior fighter to the "overhyped" Rafale. Blaming other people's equipment over your own failures. Let's see how much they can improve with such a mindset.
 

JayBird

Junior Member
SomePLAOsint gives a counter point to the new crash site footage uncovered yesterday. They add in the replies that "The 6-piece support structure of the shock cone is so unique to the Atar 9 engine" (not quoting both posts because of formatting)

Since May-7, basically both side were reluctant to send their fighter jets into other side's airspace because of risk being shot down and pilot capture like Abhinandan back in 2019.

Why would PAF sent Mirage III/V into India airspace and give India a chance of scoring a big W with their propaganda when PAF already won the air war? Also, since it was crashed on Indian side, I'm sure India media will be all over it and boasting non stop by now if that was Pakistani fight jets that was crashed on their side.
 

neutralobserver

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SomePLAOsint gives a counter point to the new crash site footage uncovered yesterday. They add in the replies that "The 6-piece support structure of the shock cone is so unique to the Atar 9 engine" (not quoting both posts because of formatting)

But what would Mirage be doing above India considering that Mirage is used strictly for stand off weapons as its ancient? Also from the comments:

 

sdkan

New Member
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Since May-7, basically both side were reluctant to send their fighter jets into other side's airspace because of risk being shot down and pilot capture like Abhinandan back in 2019.

Why would PAF sent Mirage III/V into India airspace and give India a chance of scoring a big W with their propaganda when PAF already won the air war? Also, since it was crashed on Indian side, I'm sure India media will be all over it and boasting non stop by now if that was Pakistani fight jets that was crashed on their side.

Yes, this is the future air combat mode.

Manned fighter jets will not enter enemy airspace.

For instance, if the Indian Air Force enters the airspace of Pakistan on May 7th this time, there will be five Abhinandan.

Pakistan is going to prepare five cups of tea, which will cause the budget of the Pakistani Air Force to be seriously overspent.
 

CaribouTruth

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Further comments by someplaosint

"Another way to interpret, this is one of the RD-33 engines of a MiG-29 viewing from the aft direction rather than from front."
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crazyinsane105

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Pakistan's doctrine regarding ground offensive from India is tactical nukes. So they are pretty safe from that perspective as well.
Tactical nukes were needed to ward off Cold Start doctrine, something IA isn’t even implementing because it comes with its own drawbacks. Mainly that advancements in Pakistani arms procurements will make Cold Start doctrine terribly ineffective.

Only way for India to dominate will be through a full on war, and that’s when nukes come into play. Even besides that…let’s look at Russia and Ukraine. Russia is simply failing in many of its aspects to quell Ukraine. Size simply doesn’t matter as much when each side has significant quantities of artillery and manpower.
 
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