The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[T.C.P]

I was surprised to find out that Bangladesh's economy is now about the same size as Pakistan's, despite the latter having 50% more population.

I don't think anyone is optimistic about Pakistan's future, as well as the long term position vs India.

Fortunately, by that point, China will likely have established a stronger foothold in the Indian Ocean region and be in a better position to play a larger role.

But first, a certain island needs to be dealt with...

Yes but keep in mind, Bangladesh does not have to spend as much as Pakistan does for its military and could solely focus on our economy for the last 20 years.

But there is some nuance involved. Even though Bangladesh has better gdp per capita and richer economy, our economy is not as technologically advanced as some of Pakistan's capabilities.

While focusing on military cost Pakistan a lot, they have the technological and human capital capabilities to manufacture advanced aeronautical components, missiles and nucelear tech. capabilities which take decades to develop. We dont have that in Bangladesh.

I just hope Bangladesh bites the bullet and buys the J-10 and comprehensive IADS network from China.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Pakistan has a large undocumented informal economy - estimated to be around 400 billion in size (which is almost same as the documented economy. Pakistan needs to get rid of the cash (since that is huge part of the undocumented economy) and implement major reforms so that can be integrated into the documented economy.

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I mean this is just cope though. I’m sure India has a bigger undocumented economy, and if you add in undocumented economy for China it might surpass US in nominal GDP.

 

[defenceman]

Hi,
pakistan getting every thing on credit J10, submarines & warships may be SH15
probably two years or three J35, but still poor country, no idea what’s the love between
the two country and China still keep on lending armaments on credit, big credit
line, here folks who are advocating Pakistan to be with china get hold of China, my
friends on this forum need to understand the situation between China and Pakistan relation
which I’m not saying like others everything get it from China J20 bla bla but infact China will
hold Pakistan tighter then Pakistan as long as india is a adversary to China Pakistan has
to be that much strength to keep india at bay from Chinese side
I don’t want to speculate but in time of Taiwan kind of scenario USA want india to push down
as much as they can behind China as while China facing towards Taiwan cum USA
here comes the long time friend Pakistan to start tingling india to restrain them from all out
going towards China rest assured credit line between China and Pakistan will keep on going
thank you

 

[T.C.P]

Pakistani PM tweet directly attributed to Trump.

Indians are again spreading disinfo, their country is too great to require any third party intervention.

Which is smart thing to do. Paksitan gets to assuage Trump's ego and keeps from being overtly biased towards India. Pakistan already in China's good graces for providing real life proof of Chinese advancement.
On reddit, even in educated subs they would mock Chinese military equioment. This war has caused a complete paradigm shift, the difference one real world exmple made for the respect to Chinese tech is outstanding.

 

[neutralobserver]

I mean this is just cope though. I’m sure India has a bigger undocumented economy, and if you add in undocumented economy for China it might surpass US in nominal GDP.

No, I'm not coping. I agree with the poster that we need to implement major reforms and focus on economy. What I'm trying to say is that we need to carry out reforms and achieve strong enough economic growth to reach a GDP of $1 to $1.5 trillion. That level would be sufficient to support our defense requirements and maintain deterrence against India.

 

[phrozenflame]

I mean this is just cope though. I’m sure India has a bigger undocumented economy, and if you add in undocumented economy for China it might surpass US in nominal GDP.

Its not a cope, this is a massive problem, Pakistan's informal economy might be actually bigger than the formal one. It just points to severity of poor governance and people just dont to deal with it. Its bit off topic but Ive this comes from pretty solid sources working in the highest echelons of economic planning. You may take this as it may . This issue cannot be resolved until the very basic civ vs mil part is resolved once and for all.

 

[ENTED64]

Why would the heading of these fighters even matter?

Presumably if they were shot down their momentum would keep carrying the wreckage in the direction they were going. Still this does have a lot of variation so yeah it's not really a good measure.

Likewise, it's plausible that some claimed kills weren't destroyed, but damaged to a negligible or significant degree, and managed to land.

True as we've seen in Ukraine sometimes fighters can be even badly damaged and still manage to make it back to base even if that plane is a total loss and will never fly again. That could happen to IAF and they would be able to cover up such a loss a lot easier than a downed plane.

C130 taking out from the very same air base India struck last night:

Air bases are large targets, short of nukes it's hard to permanently destroy them. Most of the time you're just runway cratering to prevent them from being used for a little while as they repair it or trying to destroy aircraft parked at the air base. It's entirely possible Indians hit that air base and destroyed a C-130 and a little while later Pakistan was able to have a different C-130 take off.

 

[taxiya]

Is this real? Some suggest this video shows how a PL-15 hit the target with 2nd ignition. The missile drops its booster when 2nd ignition happens. (!?)

Some in the comment section suggest it could also be an anti-missile test. I'm not sure.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921115279532167415

It is not a PL-15. PL-15 and any AA missle that uses DPM has only ONE motor/nozzle. The fule is separated in two sections in two chambers. The motor will burn twice in separated times. Unlike 2 staged missile, nothing is separated and dropped in flight in a DPM missile. Booster (if there is) is not counted as part of DPM and is dropped early on, not to be seen in such video of final engagement.

[edit] update a more proper diagram.

 

[neutralobserver]

Peace through strength

 

[TK3600]

And we would notice it pretty easily since the traffic on all major social media platforms would drop A LOT

And post quality will improve.