The Kashmir conflict 2025.

ohan_qwe

Junior Member
That's the kicker, I just don't understand Pakistani fixation with Turkey, China is next door, a friend and their savior. But this mission success is attribute to their drones which is a nonfactor in this conflict.
First reason is that you can't have too many friends. If it escalate more Pakistan maybe get more support from Turkey by being nice.

Second you should keep your enemy confused. Both with misinformation and multiple platforms.
 

GiantPanda

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That's the kicker, I just don't understand Pakistani fixation with Turkey, China is next door, a friend and their savior. But this mission success is attribute to their drones which is a nonfactor in this conflict.

Oh come on, the biggest news from this whole thing by far is the J-10C taking out the Rafales. And the Pakistani Defense Minister waking up the Chinese Ambassador at 4AM to state exactly that.
 

siegecrossbow

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Oh come on, the biggest news from this whole thing by far is the J-10C taking out the Rafales. And the Pakistani Defense Minister waking up the Chinese Ambassador at 4AM to state exactly that.

I think the fact it was a one sided slaughter really shocked people. To the best of my knowledge IAF wasn’t even able to get firing solution…
 

GiantPanda

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I think the fact it was a one sided slaughter really shocked people. To the best of my knowledge IAF wasn’t even able to get firing solution…

I'm pretty sure the Indians didn't. This is probably the first mid-course/directed jamming kill chain to be executed against modern fighters.

Like they say, this would be studied by everyone across the world from US to EU to Russia to China.

This skirmish will be forgotten like 2019 within a year. But the J-10C shootdowns of the Rafale will be in textbooks.
 

Mt1701d

Junior Member
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That's the kicker, I just don't understand Pakistani fixation with Turkey, China is next door, a friend and their savior. But this mission success is attribute to their drones which is a nonfactor in this conflict.
We are only at the beginning right now, just like in Ukraine, conventional arms was front and centre at the very beginning but just one operation in and we are already defaulting to missiles and drones. And they will only become more and more important as time goes by, this is along with AD.

Chinese arms will play a big role but that’s mainly in defence and conventional offensive as that’s the equipment that Pak has, while drones will mainly be Turkey since that’s their inventory. It’s just the mark of the time we are entering.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
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First reason is that you can't have too many friends. If it escalate more Pakistan maybe get more support from Turkey by being nice.

Second you should keep your enemy confused. Both with misinformation and multiple platforms.
Copy bro, we are all cheering for Pakistan success as we are brothers, an iron brotherhood at that, maybe a jealousy of my part from not getting exclusive attention. ;)
 

GiantPanda

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We are only at the beginning right now, just like in Ukraine, conventional arms was front and centre at the very beginning but just one operation in and we are already defaulting to missiles and drones. And they will only become more and more important as time goes by, this is along with AD.

Chinese arms will play a big role but that’s mainly in defence and conventional offensive as that’s the equipment that Pak has, while drones will mainly be Turkey since that’s their inventory. It’s just the mark of the time we are entering.

No offense to the Turks, they make some good stuff.

But China is dominant in drones whether commercial or military. Pakistan has had the CH-3 and CH-4 for ages.

Now there is no denying that they have taken in Turkish drones recently but if you are planning a drone hellscape with swarms of thousands then there is really only China.
 
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