The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[Deino]

Yeah mods need to clean up this thread. And members need to exercise self-discipline. Too much random slop being posted uncritically. Both IND/PAK sides are posting wild claims.

The golden rule is that if something has not been visually confirmed, then it should be treated with skepticism.

… and then it should not be posted!

 

[crazyinsane105]

Destroying them would result in immediate heavy flooding in Pakistan.

On top of that, Pakistan has not publicly stated that India is trying to use the dams against it at the moment. At least nothing official I have found beyond some random Twitter posts, which don't mean much.

What people don't understand is that the current set of dams are not the issue. It's India threatening to make more dams which is an issue, but:

1. They have not started on this. It will cost untold billions and many years before they can build a few dams to actually halt water
2. They will very likely flood their own country as there is no great way to hold back all this water
3. Pakistan can without a doubt intervene militarily and destroy them

 

[crazyinsane105]

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Possible match?

So out of India's entire missile and air campaign against Pakistani military assets, all they managed to hit was a single C-130?

That's all they can do with an 80 billion dollar plus defense budget?

 

[Tomboy]

So out of India's entire missile and air campaign against Pakistani military assets, all they managed to hit was a single C-130?

That's all they can do with an 80 billion dollar plus defense budget?

Technically up to two since the one outside might be damaged while there might also be another one parked in the hangar that is completely cooked.

 

[AndrewJ]

Seems like India has been smart to keep their navy out of this fight. Would be really difficult to explain to the public if a few of their ships got sunk by anti ship missiles. Their navy is a bit large and many of their vessels lack proper defenses against supersonic anti ship missiles.

I'm kind of looking forward to witnessing another surface combat of black-sea style.

This time, Indian Navy is Russia's Black Sea Fleet, Paki Navy is Ukraine Navy & Coast Guard.

Under Ukrainian supersonic anti-ship missiles & countless Magura V5 USVs, almost half of Russian Black Sea Fleet is gone.

What will happen to less-protected & less-modernized Indian Navy this time? Their equipment is very much russian style. Especially with a giant live target, aka the Russia-made aircraft carrier.

Seriously, Paki needs to get some USVs like Magura V5 from China or Turkey ASAP, to deter Indian naval adventures.

 

[pokepara]

What's wrong? Indian has weaponized those dams. Now, their reserve levels are low, which makes this the perfect time to destroy them. Or are you worried about escalation? Well, without water, Pakistan is going to have a very hard time. Do or die.

How has India weaponised the Salal dam? There's one tweet about 5 gates opening up and then random speculation about what it means. You're proposing an reaction without explaining what it is meant to counter.

 

[ohan_qwe]

China has a high threshold for violence, but once it's started China goes all the way no half measures. It's literally written in the very first paragraph in Sun Tzu

I would say Vietnam 1979 was a half measure. Against India in 1960s too.

 

[Expert1324]

Key details from yesterday's Pakistani military briefing on the air combat timeline:

00:10 HRS – PAF detected IAF fighter jets mobilizing near the LoC across northern and central sectors.
00:12 HRS – Within 2 minutes, PAF initiated pre-planned contingency measures.
00:23 HRS – Pakistani jets executing Defensive Counter-Air (DCA) missions were scrambled.
00:30 HRS – IAF completed offensive formation across 4 axes near LoC. Initial force: 60 jets (incl. 14 Rafales), later reinforced to 72 aircraft.

00:37 HRS – PAF DCA fighters engaged IAF incursions. Pakistan deployed 42 advanced jets to defend airspace, with civilian flights evacuated from projected engagement zones.

Rules of Engagement Shift: After IAF launched air-to-ground weapons, PAF Chief ordered escalation from deterrence to lethal engagement. "Since India boasted endlessly about Rafale's superiority, we prioritized targeting them—hence their disproportionate losses," the briefing stated.

Unprecedented Scale: The hour-long dogfight involved mass Beyond-Visual-Range (BVR) exchanges with unprecedented missile volleys.

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PAF disclosed 6 confirmed IAF kills (Fig.2):

1. Mig-29: 38km at 243° from Srinagar (~15km to LoC)
2. Su-30MKI: 35km at 192° from Srinagar (~46km to LoC)
3. Rafale: 77km at 144° from Srinagar (100km to LoC)
4. Drone: 30km at 342° from Jammu (~35km to LoC)
5. Rafale: 24km at 114° from Jammu (~13km to LoC)
6. Rafale: 46km at 288° from Bhatinda (~42.6km to border)

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Intercepted Rafale squadron comms (audio played):
Lead: "Godzilla 4, read you loud. Where’s Godzilla 3?"
Godzilla 4: "Godzilla 4 nominal. Checking Godzilla 3’s status—"
Godzilla 4 (later): *"GODZILLA 4 REPORTING... (Rafale) JUST EXPLODED MID-AIR! REPEAT, EXPLODED!"*

"Since India boasted endlessly about Rafale's superiority, we prioritized targeting them—hence their disproportionate losses," the briefing stated.

The fact that they can intentionally prioritise specific aircraft models shows how good the radar is and the amount of information that is available. And how confident they are of their gear. This is already a step above being confident of your own skills imo.

Other pilots would dream of even hitting something lol. But with high level skills and good gears, the sky isn't even the limit.

 

[BillRamengod]

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"Larger missile debris crashed in India's Pokhran region, Rajasthan—and an Indian netizen living right next to the impact site snapped photos, estimating the wreckage at ~12 feet long."



Looks like a BrahMos. I'm curious whether it was intercepted or just a launch failure.

Location:

 

[syedirtiza]

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apparent capture of Indian pilot. (not a clear proof so take it with a pinch of salt)


edited: another video from twitter

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