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Joliex10

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siegecrossbow said:
Do you seriously think the Indians will admit to that? They have helicopter/tank losses from the 1962 war that they haven’t even acknowledged yet and the Chinese only knew about them only after they stumbled upon them in patrols.

If you are here to get a rise out of people, you are succeeding.
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I'm just a fair non bias person who doesn't just blindly believe in everything i hear, if it's from Rueters or even global times.

eg - If Rueters had official confirmation from a chinese military official that a chinese submarine sunk, i would believe. but If they don't and they instead have images of a submarine being pulled out of the water with cranes, then i would believe them also. But they have none.

Same thing with this article. They don't have an official confirmation from dassault or indian military official, they don't have videos/photos of the shot down jets. i would be a hypocrite to believe this article.

I will eat my words one day if any more evidence comes out, but right now. it's not enough to confirm anything.
 
FriedRiceNSpice

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siegecrossbow said:
Dude, give it a rest. They can report nuclear sub sinking in a negative light because China and U.S. are adversaries. What’s the motive to play up Chinese capabilities?

When Indian officials are asked about the aircraft crashes, why do they say “no comment” instead of denying it outright? If they have nothing to hide why don’t they just show that BS001 is flying?
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Can't you ban him from this thread? Isn't it obvious this is intentional trolling - he's not even bothering to make any actual argument?
 
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tokenanalyst

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Joliex10 said:
I'm just a fair non bias person who doesn't just blindly believe in everything i hear, if it's from Rueters or even global times.

eg - If Rueters had official confirmation from a chinese military official that a chinese submarine sunk, i would believe. but If they don't and they instead have images of a submarine being pulled out of the water with cranes, then i would believe them also. But they have none.

Same thing with this article. They don't have an official confirmation from dassault or indian military official, they don't have videos/photos of the shot down jets. i would be a hypocrite to believe this article.

I will eat my words one day if any more evidence comes out, but right now. it's not enough to confirm anything.
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The Western Mainstream garbage media is so bias against China that even the things that put China in "positive light" are ALWAYS tone down to make it look neutral or even negative. So If the garbage journos of Reuters say that "Two airplanes shot down" Believe me that they are trying their best to tone down the news so don't put China in any way in a positive light
 
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FriedRiceNSpice

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Joliex10 said:
Same thing with this article. They don't have an official confirmation from dassault or indian military official, they don't have videos/photos of the shot down jets. i would be a hypocrite to believe this article.
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I can't refrain anymore and will reply to the troll just once. Applying some basic logic and critical thinking, let's create a basic hierarchy of credibility: 1) French government (they have an interest in the reputation of the Rafale) 2) US government (neutral party) 3) Pakistani government (they have an interest in inflating their success) 4) Indian government (they have an interest in hiding their failure, and their political culture is built on a culture of dishonesty). If both the most and second most credible source confirms it, why the hell would we care about the 4th. And Dassault is irrelevant- it's the French government that matters. When you buy a defective product from Walmart - do you go return it at Walmart or do you go hunt down the factory that produced it? The French government, not Dassault is clearly the final authority on the matter. Rafale is product of French government and Dassault is just the factory that happens to put it together.
 
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Joliex10 said:
They don't have an official confirmation from dassault or indian military official
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What is the worth of "confirmation" from an Indian official who belongs to the same organization that claimed the following which was eventually proven to be patently false? Ever heard of credibility? It's not just an empty word.

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siegecrossbow said:
Does anyone have a non-pay walled version?

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Apparently someone on F-16.net read it and found it very distressing and am curious what the analyst actually said…
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Just run it via archive.md

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My assumption is a lot of people are hoping the PL-15E used is actually the non-export version with the serial numbers filed off.
 
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