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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Trump’s port charges are only go kill jobs that are mostly MAGA workers. Bessent saying trade tariffs between the US and China are unsustainable… for the US. Everything in the US works in such a narrow margin where the US is going to suffer first. All the US has is they think Americans are the only customers that buys what China produces. Time and time again whatever they believe has been proven wrong.
 

supersnoop

Colonel
Registered Member
I can only imagine in a few years, the lamentations of future Chinese peasants
"I bought this Made in USA washing machine and it is total junk and fell apart in 6 months. I miss the good old days when things were made here and lasted!"
"Our local Wal-Mart is filled with cheap American clothes..."
"The workmanship of the Made in USA iPhones have improved a lot, I would say it has reached the level of the Indian ones"
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
China's own port fees against whom? Reciprocal port fees against US made ship is useless because US shipbuilding industry is practically non-existence (I'm not against putting one up anyway just to bury the very idea of US shipbuilding industry though).

What the US port fees does is essentially increase the competitiveness of SK and Japan shipbuilding industries against China. But not by much, I predict major shipping companies will magically shit out a bunch of subsidiaries to exclusively handle shipping route to US where they concentrate all their non Chinese made ship.

Again the american overestimated their importance in global market, US bound shipping route is just a small fraction of global shipping volume much less than China's shipping volume in fact. If they keep this up it will just further shrink their volume and destroy their port business. At this point it will be cheaper to just unload cargo in Canada and Mexico and move those cargo through land route into US.
Chinese port fees is to prevent orders from going to Korean and Japanese shipyards. You have to understand the purpose of the America port fees is NOT to shift ship building to the US. The true purpose is to reduce orders to Chinese shipyards by forcing them to non-Chinese ones.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
Registered Member
I can only imagine in a few years, the lamentations of future Chinese peasants
"I bought this Made in USA washing machine and it is total junk and fell apart in 6 months. I miss the good old days when things were made here and lasted!"
"Our local Wal-Mart is filled with cheap American clothes..."
"The workmanship of the Made in USA iPhones have improved a lot, I would say it has reached the level of the Indian ones"
You laugh but tons of people actually do have a Made in the US of A, designed by Haier in Qingdao washing machine.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
LOL He still thinks there's gonna be a working relationship, as if more Chinese consumption means more US exports to China. China's economy is going to continue to be rebalanced more towards domestic consumption (which, ironically, is how the US finds itself without leverage now), rejecting US goods. America's economy, I don't know or care. We'll see what they can do with a population that wants manufacturing in the US but doesn't want to work in factories. They can keep that mess to themselves.
 
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