Trump 2.0 official thread

nativechicken

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The United States' biggest problem is debt. It must secure at least $500-800 billion in foreign capital to purchase new US Treasury bonds. Only this can prove to global markets that the dollar and US debt remain trusted by foreign creditors, stimulate domestic capital to continue holding US debt, and suppress Treasury yields.
This is the core issue this "American Century Tariff" strategy ultimately aims to address.

Therefore, all countries with foreign exchange surpluses—China, Europe, Japan, South Korea, Middle Eastern nations, etc.—are being targeted.
Frankly, if either China or Europe refuses to play this game, the US debt crisis becomes unsolvable. When June-July debt maturities require refinancing, default becomes unavoidable. The Fed might resort to printing money to buy Treasuries itself, but this would only delay immediate collapse while cementing long-term doom. Essentially, the dollar and US debt now resemble a Ponzi scheme casino where no one dares catch the falling knife.

Thus, without China's participation in this game, the outcome is predetermined.

Regarding other countries (smaller nations): China temporarily retreating from the US market might superficially benefit them. However, given that China accounts for over 30% of global industrial output (with purchasing power parity potentially exceeding 60% considering cost-efficiency), excluding Chinese manufacturing capacity would make production costs skyrocket for all. The US can print money, but can others?

The critical issue: The more dollars the US prints, the higher the inflation costs and currency devaluation. Yet overall GDP growth remains stagnant, ultimately reducing America's total consumption capacity. Third countries will find the US market increasingly meaningless—there's no profit to be made.

The premise of US alliance control has always been "distributing candy"—letting others profit. But Trump demands "balance": any profits made must be recycled into buying depreciating US debt. It's like working all day to earn a meal, yet gaining zero actual income. Worse, you lose money because raw material imports require real costs, while US trade "balance" means:

  1. Letting you earn $100
  2. Forcing you to spend all 100buyingoverpricedUSgoods(e.g.,$10-cost items sold at $100)
  3. Or mandating full $100 investment in US Treasuries
This system forces nations to subsidize America even for basic production costs. How could such "trade" possibly sustain itself?

Under this logic, surrender is futile—it only turns nations into America's blood supply. Whoever capitulates becomes the loser.
 

Iracundus

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I can't wait to show this to my maga-pilled relatives, who are desperately trying to believe they're only getting rid of bad (muslim, leftist, pro-chinese) people.

But he had speeding tickets, so in their eyes he is a criminal. And if he's not, he works in a university which is clearly brainwashing him to be a woke liberal or is using him to spread woke liberal ideology. He's also Asian and that means if nothing else he must be a spy. Maybe he's all of the above at the same time.

The reason doesn't matter. They already have a conclusion and outcome in mind, and can shift the goalposts as needed to find a reason to justify it.
 

SanWenYu

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2003

USA: "We found W(ashing powder)MDs in Iraq! Time to invade Iraq and topple Saddam!"

Europe (except UK and Poland): "Please don't, that's a very bad idea."

USA: "Screw you guys, I do whatever I want!"

2025

USA: "Europe should've stopped us from invading Iraq!"

Europe: *BRUH*

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Had this American peasant smoked too much cow dung? Wasn't the Iraq war a republican work?
 

lych470

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Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba said there are still gaps between the respective stances of Japan and the U.S.
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Tariff negotiations between Japan and the United States began in Washington on Wednesday with goodwill being expressed by both sides but little progress made, other than an agreement to meet again.


Significantly, exchange rates were not discussed, according to Ryosei Akazawa, Japan's chief tariff negotiator, although defense may have been on the agenda.



The value of the yen had become a point of contention in recent weeks, with the U.S. indicating that the Japanese currency might be too weak, while U.S. President Donald Trump has said he would like Japan to pay more for hosting American troops.
 

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over Trump policies, two pieces of White House palace intrigue emerged Tuesday:
  1. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suspended two top Pentagon officials,
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    and
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    , as part of an
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    into who leaked word of a planned top-secret briefing on China for Elon Musk.
  2. Axios learned that Musk or Hegseth didn't just decide to call off that briefing after the leak.
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    himself ordered staffers to kill it.

  • "What the f**k is Elon doing there? Make sure he doesn't go," Trump said, a top official recalled to Axios.
 

horse

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No. Just adding some realism to the discussion.

Dude, you got to use your brain.

Tell me what you think, if there is a fully decoupling between America and China, where the current tariff rates remain unchanged indefinitely.

How fast do you think the US economy will grow, and how many weapons will they have in inventory in case they cannot find any rare earths.

Then tell us how fast you expect the Chinese economy to grow at.
 
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