Trump 2.0 official thread

Topazchen

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America Could Have Won the Trade War and reindustrialized by 2030—If It Had Been More Patient.
Think about it for a minute :Trump enters office in 2016 and learns about China 2025 and the unsustainable trade deficit and debt . Instead of panicking, he takes a disciplined, long-term approach. He imposes an initial 10% tariff on all trade—increasing by 10% each year for the next 30 years—and secures Congressional backing to lock in the policy, ensuring no future president can easily reverse it.

This gradual escalation would have given businesses ample time to recalibrate their supply chains, reshore manufacturing, and adapt without sudden disruptions. The steady, predictable pressure would have made reindustrialization inevitable by 2030, strengthening America’s economic independence or whatever he calls it .

But the obsession with short-term wins and the desire to inflict immediate pain on China and Europe undermined this strategy. Instead of a sustainable victory, the U.S. got a chaotic trade war with no clear endgame.
Xi should thank heavens that he's dealing with an impulsive power and not a patient one.
 

zscstephen

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NGL the best part about it for me is watching everyone with at least a shred of sanity concede—with varying degrees of surly and begrudging resentment—that calm competence is preferable to complete chaos. No matter how much they hate one flag and love the other.


Praise from your friends is nice and all, but praise from your enemies is true vindication.
It's one of the few moments that can really raise one's tolerance TBH, and they might have a chance to see some of the bigger pictures.

I don't see anything could be simply exchanged as the result of tariffs policy, and Trump is like betting against a rock... spiritual power doesn't work that way, and that's not how reality works either.
 

abenomics12345

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A 104% total tariff on goods from China is going to be such a shock on the economic system in the US.

It's one of the few moments that can really raise one's tolerance TBH, and they might have a chance to see some of the bigger pictures.

I don't see anything could be simply exchanged as the result of tariffs policy, and Trump is like betting against a rock... spiritual power doesn't work that way, and that's not how reality works either.

You might as well make it 1000% tariffs at this point - it’s no different. Basically Trump tried to bluff Xi and Xi is just check raising him, knowing that he can clean out Trump if he needs to (but I think some have mentioned we prefer a slow bleed of the US rather than explosive deletion).
 

manqiangrexue

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America Could Have Won the Trade War and reindustrialized by 2030—If It Had Been More Patient.
Think about it for a minute :Trump enters office in 2016 and learns about China 2025 and the unsustainable trade deficit and debt . Instead of panicking, he takes a disciplined, long-term approach. He imposes an initial 10% tariff on all trade—increasing by 10% each year for the next 30 years—and secures Congressional backing to lock in the policy, ensuring no future president can easily reverse it.

This gradual escalation would have given businesses ample time to recalibrate their supply chains, reshore manufacturing, and adapt without sudden disruptions. The steady, predictable pressure would have made reindustrialization inevitable by 2030, strengthening America’s economic independence or whatever he calls it .

But the obsession with short-term wins and the desire to inflict immediate pain on China and Europe undermined this strategy. Instead of a sustainable victory, the U.S. got a chaotic trade war with no clear endgame.
Xi should thank heavens that he's dealing with an impulsive power and not a patient one.
Maybe America can reindustrialize; that's their business. But win anything long term against China? No. By what abomination could a country of 330 million liberal arts majors, frat boys and drug addicts, the best of which study law and business, win against a country of 1.4 billion STEM majors?
 
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Overbom

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You might as well make it 1000% tariffs at this point - it’s no different. Basically Trump tried to bluff Xi and Xi is just check raising him, knowing that he can clean out Trump if he needs to (but I think some have mentioned we prefer a slow bleed of the US rather than explosive deletion).
Implosion of a superpower is extremely dangerous. Indeed, a slow death/retirement to elder care is indeed preferable

But who knew that Americans like their action movies so much that they wanted to go out with a big explosion instead
 
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