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Arij Javaid

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There is a good reason why Chinese internet call Bibi 内圣, not politically correct of course. I'm just disappointed he didn't deliver a bigger October surprise.
Chinese who support Israel is like Indians supporting Turkey. Very detached and opposite side of the geopolitical spectrum.

Forget about the morality aspect, the vast majority of Chinese hate manufactured in the west is pushed by Zionist Jews. Because a rising china is a threat to the western dominated world order they control.

So it's like chickens for KFC situation.

I know a lot of Chinese who hate CCP often end up supporting Israel. Just to be at the opposite side of the spectrum.
 

Index

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Yeah. From a national perspective Gaza is a convenient tool to discredit west, no more. If they liberate themselves, they are just another Chinese hating islamist country. Who cares. If they die fighting, they inflict attrition on west. So better they keep fighting and dying than win.

Israel is like an ally to China. Their action has crippled western rivals beyond any chance to fight China. And they actively destroy US stability and inflict attrition on them. Do they hate China too? Yes. But they cant do shit.

So sorry, China is most likely secretly pro Israel. Pro Israel keeps commit genocide but never finish the job, and certainly not interrupt enemy when they are making mistakes.
A lot of it is just theater and trolling. We're getting them back with interest for Tiananmen on this one. 200 rioters and thugs shot dead and the west made this out to be the massacre of a century, when every other yearly African shot by cop protest yields about that many deaths in USA.

Now, enjoy having your less efficiency than Rwandan tribesmen genocide cast as equivalent to the Holocaust.

The reason Israel needs to burn is to set an example and humiliate the US, not because of any intrinsic crimes of Israel, which are many, but the same is true for Saudis. If they cave to pressure like Saudis did and agree to carry water for China while downgrading/removing their ties with US, there is no real reason to punish them.

The quasi Hindu attitude of many Israelis is annoying, and may be their undoing, but in that case it's also no skin off China's back, and we can deal in the same capacity with a successor Arab state, with the added bonus that the continued oppression will have galvanized them against the west, making them loyal allies.

That said, at least some of the Israelis online displaying Hindu like behavior do it because they are posting from a slum in Mumbai. I have no idea if the non-vedic variant type Israelis are integratable in China's world order or not.

I've come to believe that a the conflict in the middle east should be kept going for as long as possible. The keyword is to manufacture oppression, to make the whole Islamic world become more and more radical against the west. The most useful allies is always the ones that rightfully or not believed they were heavily oppressed by the past enemy. Just look at the Baltics, Poland and Ukraine, who believed themselves to be oppressed by the USSR.
 
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iewgnem

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Yeah. From a national perspective Gaza is a convenient tool to discredit west, no more. If they liberate themselves, they are just another Chinese hating islamist country. Who cares. If they die fighting, they inflict attrition on west. So better they keep fighting and dying than win.

Israel is like an ally to China. Their action has crippled western rivals beyond any chance to fight China. And they actively destroy US stability and inflict attrition on them. Do they hate China too? Yes. But they cant do shit.

So sorry, China is most likely secretly pro Israel. Pro Israel keeps commit genocide but never finish the job, and certainly not interrupt enemy when they are making mistakes.
There are certainly people in China who see it that way, and their analysis of the situation isn't wrong, but at a broad human level you also can't ignore people's instinctive empathy for victims of atrocities nor the human nature to reject open unadulterated evil. This is especially true when China was less than a century ago also victim of the same evil. Empathy might not play a big role in making geopolitical decisions, but it has always plays a big role justifying geopolitical decisions both politically and diplomatically.

The strongest allies are built on common enemies, and the most loyal friends are those you saved from the enemy. Strategically Israel's economy and population are both too small to matter to China, while the Middle East as a whole, and certainly the Muslim world are much more important in term of geography, energy and market. It's very much in China's interest to bring the Muslim world to China's side, e.g. a naval base in Gaza will give China control over the Suez and the entire Mediterranean. Helping Palestine against the Israel provides this opportunity, and Israel's openly evil behaviour helps justifying it. The opportunity for China isn't just in the Palestine and Israel weakening the west, the opportunity for China is building a new world order by saving Palestinians from the west.

Would China be doing this purely because of empathy, no, but empathy certainly helps justifying going ahead with it.
 

Arij Javaid

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Yeah. From a national perspective Gaza is a convenient tool to discredit west, no more. If they liberate themselves, they are just another Chinese hating islamist country.
Let's be honest. It might not be politically correct on this sub but very few countries have positive views about china. No one likes china. Hell, a lot of oversees Chinese don't. Lol. The ones who do like china like china because they see it as lesser of the two evils compared to the west

But out of all the spectrum of china hating world, the set of countries that are least likely to hate china are Muslim countries. Why??

Because they've suffered the consequences of western lies and are less prone to believe western lies about china

You poll any western country or western aligned country in the world. Majority will hate china. Even Russians don't like china. They see it as convenient ally

So I can assure you, a liberated Palestine will be the last country you'd expect to hate china
 

AssassinsMace

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Apparently YouTube banned Johnny Somali not because of his antics in other countries but because someone who had access to his account posted porn on his YouTube channel. Well Koreans are ganging up to lynch mob Johnny Somali until he skedaddles which maybe soon?

I'm afraid if he went to China, they wouldn't do anything to him despite they're reputation. The only example of Chinese doing something I know of is when that British guy was raping the Chinese girl out on a Beijing street. A Chinese guy shorter than him beat him unconscious. Like I said before in a previous post, Shanghai is where a lot of rowdy Western expats are disturbing the peace and the police apparently do nothing. Hopefully Johnny Somali is hearing and believing the stereotypes about how China is racist and he doesn't show up there. There is an African-American man in jail in China for years for drug dealing but he claims he's innocent and the US media is embracing it over how they stereotype black men as drug dealers all the time. Hopefully you get that message Johnny.
 

Sardaukar20

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Apparently YouTube banned Johnny Somali not because of his antics in other countries but because someone who had access to his account posted porn on his YouTube channel. Well Koreans are ganging up to lynch mob Johnny Somali until he skedaddles which maybe soon?

I'm afraid if he went to China, they wouldn't do anything to him despite they're reputation. The only example of Chinese doing something I know of is when that British guy was raping the Chinese girl out on a Beijing street. A Chinese guy shorter than him beat him unconscious. Like I said before in a previous post, Shanghai is where a lot of rowdy Western expats are disturbing the peace and the police apparently do nothing. Hopefully Johnny Somali is hearing and believing the stereotypes about how China is racist and he doesn't show up there. There is an African-American man in jail in China for years for drug dealing but he claims he's innocent and the US media is embracing it over how they stereotype black men as drug dealers all the time. Hopefully you get that message Johnny.
I doubt that the Chinese police would do nothing if a foreigner is commiting a crime or disturbing the peace. They may be slow to reach the scene, and the good samaritans who were there had to act first.

Johnny Somali will surely be arrested in China for disturbing the peace. If Chinese security guards could kick out some American weirdos from the Forbidden City. Surely the police will to respond to another American idiot starting a brawl somewhere. But the Chinese immigration might actually do the favour by denying him entry. He is too infamous right now to be overlooked.
 

Index

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Apparently YouTube banned Johnny Somali not because of his antics in other countries but because someone who had access to his account posted porn on his YouTube channel. Well Koreans are ganging up to lynch mob Johnny Somali until he skedaddles which maybe soon?

I'm afraid if he went to China, they wouldn't do anything to him despite they're reputation.
I don't think he'd get decked but he'd quickly get police summoned on him. People in China are broadly speaking not used to aggressive thuggery on the streets, so he would stick out like a sore thumb and anyone who feels annoyed would just keep telling him off until it culminates in him catching picking quarrels charges or worse.
The only example of Chinese doing something I know of is when that British guy was raping the Chinese girl out on a Beijing street.
Well yeah it's super uncommon because of high social trust and low overall criminal rate, in that case, some good samaritan had to stop the sexual assault before it could continue, but likely police was on its way at the same time.

Street rape cases make it to national news on slow news days in China, and frequently end up giving death penalty as well.

Even notoriously difficult to handle hindu workers are kept in check, somehow.

I'm of the opinion to give more severe punishment for equivalent crimes committed by migrants, to deter transnational criminals and pre-empt them from organizing. But for now there is an overall fragile peace kept by social trust and public security, with no particular migrant groups standing out as a disproportionate criminal threat.

China is getting a lot more people from SEA, Europe, Africa and even hindus. The government must be careful.
 
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