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tacoburger

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>Russia bogged down in Ukraine and increasingly dependent on China
>India increasingly isolated from their long time ally of Russia and being stuck in a weird limbo where they don't want to fully commit to the West too
>Europe weakened due to being cut off from Russia and also being seen as unreliable since they don't seem to want to fully support Ukraine just due to budget issues
>America seen as untrustworthy ally, can't even fully commit to Ukraine despite their bloated military budget, all due to political left/right bullshit
>America/The west seen as a extreme hypocrite due to their silence and support and backing of Israel despite Israel basically committing every thing that the West is accusing China of doing, genocide, suppression of Muslims, breaking international laws
>America is going to be stuck in the middle east for many more years at this rate
>The middle east and the Muslim world is going to be leaning towards China more and the West can't play their "Uyghur/muslim" genocide card anymore

Geopolitically speaking, this has been a good 2 years for China.
 
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GodRektsNoobs

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How do you justify that if one person were infected, the entire floor would be forcefully relocated to quarantine camps? Or when you order deliveries, the security guard would throw them away, forcing you to buy food and vegetables from neighborhood committees what often overcharge so they themselves could profit off the deliveries? And if you have a pet and live on the same floor as someone who got infected, your pet would be brutally executed whilst you get sent to the camps? This was not a war footing like the siege of Leningrad. It was an overreaction to a new strand of virus that could not have been stopped in the first place. The surge from November 2022 to February 2023 proved that point. The whole 2022 lockdown was pointless to began with. It only let to power abuses that made my relatives in Shanghai who still hold grudges against the security guards and the neighborhood committee. They are still patriots, but they can never forgive the people who starved them, forced them to purchase hyper expensive vegetables, and sent their neighbours to quarantine camps (where the sewers simply did not work and forced everyone to sleep in jail like conditions) in Pudong for more than a month in. The whole drama was a farce to begin with. Who’s fault was it? The man at the very top who wanted a perfectly smooth transition to his third term and wrongly judged that defeating Omicron could be another one of his achievements. He did get his third term, but the whole Omicron lockdown drama rightly got him back with his pants down by November. When protesters in Shanghai finally shouted “Xi step down, CPC step down” during the November protests, they meant to vent all their anger and pain suffered just to so that the bear with a very little brain could have superficial 面子 for his political transition. When the iron fist of the CCP strikes you hard, you cease to be a little pinky. People are citizens and should be treated as so, not 韭菜 to be wasted for privileged folks.
Yep, pro-Western liberal confirmed. You sound like real 润人 material.
 

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Xi Focus: Xi presents flag to PLA's information support force​

BEIJING, April 19 (Xinhua) -- The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) has set up an information support force.

Chinese President Xi Jinping presented a flag to the force at its establishment ceremony held on Friday in Beijing.

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ChongqingHotPot92

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The only issue I've seen is that the iron fist of the party didnt strike hard enough to crush those little Baizuos. Shanghai was the only place with this kind of problem, which really reflected the patriotism and moral stature of the city. The richest, most degenerative capitalist city calling anyone "privileged" is laughable.
Well the government DIDNT go after the degenerates you mentioned here. The degenerates were able to bribe their ways through the bureaucracy and enjoy protection of the local police organs. It was the Joe average hard working people who had to suffer the lockdowns and quarantine camps. If the government were serious about rooting about the degenerates of Shanghai (also, Beijing, Guangzhou, and HK) they would have done so a long time ago. It is because the degenerates you mentioned are exactly the sons and daughters of high-ranking party officials and well connected businesspeople. They are the 赵家人 and 特权阶级 exploiters. Hell, what make you think that as a private entrepreneurs you can get privileged access to lands and capital/loans with special channels, especially competition is so cut-throat?

But again, as I mentioned earlier. These “degenerates” are an inevitable outgrowth of the China’s market economic reform. Unless Xi wants to kill market economy and reintroduce Maoism, this problem can only be managed, not resolved. Resolving it means forcing more rich people and officials to 润 and defect overseas, whilst killing economic opportunities for average people.

It is for this reason I think China would eventually need to have a more independent judicial system combining the CCDI and other legal institutions. I’m not arguing for implanting the US political system, but some kind of checks-n-balance would be necessary if you want to limit the privileges of those degenerates, as well as officials who abuse power to get promoted (like during the Shanghai lockdown), in the long run. But Xi clearly has no interests in the short term.
 
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Chevalier

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Israel has attacked in Iran, based on the explosions, it seems Iran was completely unable to stop it as well. They will have to respond in a huge way. Begun the Israel-Iran war has!!!



As for China, its party time in Beijing. US is going to be bogged down in Middle East for atleast 2-3 years.
What better way to use those stores of US Treasuries to purchase arms and ammunition for the Houthis and supplies to Iran?
>Russia bogged down in Ukraine and increasingly dependent on China
>India increasingly isolated from their long time ally of Russia and being stuck in a weird limbo where they don't want to fully commit to the West too
>Europe weakened due to being cut off from Russia and also being seen as unreliable since they don't seem to want to fully support Ukraine just due to budget issues
>America seen as untrustworthy ally, can't even fully commit to Ukraine despite their bloated military budget, all due to political left/right bullshit
>America/The west seen as a extreme hypocrite due to their silence and support and backing of Israel despite Israel basically committing every thing that the West is accusing China of doing, genocide, suppression of Muslims, breaking international laws
>America is going to be stuck in the middle east for many more years at this rate
>The middle east and the Muslim world is going to be leaning towards China more and the West can't play their "Uyghur/muslim" genocide card anymore

Geopolitically speaking, this has been a good 2 years for China.
The cherry on top is to instigate a similar 'ukraine' situation in america's backyard ie the Mexican border.


Back in the 90s, i remember westerners telling us Asians how good free market capitalism was and how Asia needed to westernise and be free like the glorious pure huwhite west.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Well the government DIDNT go after the degenerates you mentioned here. The degenerates were able to bribe their ways through the bureaucracy and enjoy protection of the local police organs. It was the Joe average hard working people who had to suffer the lockdowns and quarantine camps. If the government were serious about rooting about the degenerates of Shanghai (also, Beijing, Guangzhou, and HK) they would have done so a long time ago. It is because the degenerates you mentioned are exactly the sons and daughters of high-ranking party officials and well connected businesspeople. They are the 赵家人 and 特权阶级 exploiters. Hell, what make you think that as a private entrepreneurs you can get privileged access to lands and capital/loans with special channels, especially competition is so cut-throat?

But again, as I mentioned earlier. These “degenerates” are an inevitable outgrowth of the China’s market economic reform. Unless Xi wants to kill market economy and reintroduce Maoism, this problem can only be managed, not resolved. Resolving it means forcing more rich people and officials to 润 and defect overseas, whilst killing economic opportunities for average people.

It is for this reason I think China would eventually need to have a more independent judicial system combining the CCDI and other legal institutions. I’m not arguing for implanting the US political system, but some kind of checks-n-balance would be necessary if you want to limit the privileges of those degenerates, as well as officials who abuse power to get promoted (like during the Shanghai lockdown), in the long run. But Xi clearly has no interests in the short term.
Yeah so how come it seems mostly Shanghai has this problem where all the money goes to connected officials as you say? I mean it seems Shanghaiers are disproportionately complaining about this.

And how come only Shanghai apparently suffered so bad from the lockdowns, nowhere else?

Shenzhen was the original SEZ city and doesn't seem to have this problem. In fact I struggle to think of other cities like Shanghai where gains are privatized, costs are socialize and people worship the west.

Shenzhen and Chengdu were both locked down too and there were no issues.

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So is it something about Shanghai?? I hate 地图炮 but all you are doing is showing me that Shanghai has some unique problems in mentality.
 

GZDRefugee

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Yeah so how come it seems mostly Shanghai has this problem where all the money goes to connected officials as you say? I mean it seems Shanghaiers are disproportionately complaining about this.

And how come only Shanghai apparently suffered so bad from the lockdowns, nowhere else?

Shenzhen was the original SEZ city and doesn't seem to have this problem. In fact I struggle to think of other cities like Shanghai where gains are privatized, costs are socialize and people worship the west.

Shenzhen and Chengdu were both locked down too and there were no issues.

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So is it something about Shanghai?? I hate 地图炮 but all you are doing is showing me that Shanghai has some unique problems in mentality.
上海帮 is likely still active. Secondly, SH is chock full of Uncle Toms and petite bourgeoisie counter-revolutionaries.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Yeah so how come it seems mostly Shanghai has this problem where all the money goes to connected officials as you say? I mean it seems Shanghaiers are disproportionately complaining about this.

And how come only Shanghai apparently suffered so bad from the lockdowns, nowhere else?

Shenzhen was the original SEZ city and doesn't seem to have this problem. In fact I struggle to think of other cities like Shanghai where gains are privatized, costs are socialize and people worship the west.

Shenzhen and Chengdu were both locked down too and there were no issues.

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So is it something about Shanghai?? I hate 地图炮 but all you are doing is showing me that Shanghai has some unique problems in mentality.
Shanghai needs some serious metaphorical purging. I have yet to come across a Shanghainese that does not spew tyrannical b.s. They probably think that Shanghai= all of China. And that they are the reason China has risen. What a load of crap.
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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Yeah so how come it seems mostly Shanghai has this problem where all the money goes to connected officials as you say? I mean it seems Shanghaiers are disproportionately complaining about this.

And how come only Shanghai apparently suffered so bad from the lockdowns, nowhere else?

Shenzhen was the original SEZ city and doesn't seem to have this problem. In fact I struggle to think of other cities like Shanghai where gains are privatized, costs are socialize and people worship the west.

Shenzhen and Chengdu were both locked down too and there were no issues.

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So is it something about Shanghai?? I hate 地图炮 but all you are doing is showing me that Shanghai has some unique problems in mentality.
Relatives speaking, Shanghai does have more problems. It has more money and most foreign connections compared to the rest of China, so when those “degenerates” tried to score political points to protect their often illicit assets, they have direct access to foreign media outlets sitting there. That’s why you hear so many stories coming out of Shanghai. People in Chengdu and Shenzhen are equally angry at the mismanaged lockdowns, but they don’t have the media narrative power like the Shanghai-based “degenerates.” Keep in mind that nobody was there to speak on behalf of the actually citizens suffering from the lockdown. It was a political battle with the lockdown victims being used as cannon fodders. And for the 大白 neighborhood committees and security guards empowered to carry out the lockdown, they were powerless to deal with the well-connected degenerates, so they exploit the ordinary hardworking people by trying to force them buy overpriced food/materials from them. Unfortunately, Shanghai “degenerates” you mentioned just happened to be so connected internationally and within the party apparatus. They are the Yeltsins within China. Otherwise, how did they get so rich and well-connected in the first place?

Sounds like Shanghai needs a Cultural Revolution-like purge? Well if you do that, you may as well kiss goodbye to 40 years of successful development. That’s why I argue that there are no short term solutions to this problem. The long term solutions lies in making judicial system more effective and fair, allowing other social and public forces to check the plutocracy of those degenerates.
 
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