60th Anniversary National Day Parade

kroko

Senior Member
Thats not DF-31A (if it exists). Thats the old DF-31 vehicle launcher and cannister. Barring the camoflage, they havent change it a bit since the 1999 parade...

DF-31A may or may not exist, but the fact that china hasnt developed an ICBM-capable all-terrain launch vehicle is a big dissapointment, specially since they had a DECADE to developed it. Russia has it since the 80´s. All other missiles have it, why cant DF-31 have it?
 

Violet Oboe

Junior Member
Actually China has developed a ´russian style´ ICBM launcher (possibly with help from Belarus) somewhat resembling a Topol launching vehicle but obviously PLA is not prepared to show off that stuff for now.

May be we have to wait for another five years... :(
 

Engineer

Major
DF-31A may or may not exist, but the fact that china hasnt developed an ICBM-capable all-terrain launch vehicle is a big dissapointment, specially since they had a DECADE to developed it. Russia has it since the 80´s. All other missiles have it, why cant DF-31 have it?

Oh, they have it, but for some reasons they aren't showing it.

As for digital camo, it is about time they applied it to their vehicles. However, they should have made sure every vehicle in the parade also has digital camo, because things now look a bit unorganized. I hope the airforce will introduce digital camo to their planes in the near future.
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
Actually China has developed a ´russian style´ ICBM launcher (possibly with help from Belarus) somewhat resembling a Topol launching vehicle but obviously PLA is not prepared to show off that stuff for now.

May be we have to wait for another five years... :(

there wont be a parade in five years, the next one is likely to be in 2019. by then its gonna be a whole new level
i heard China developed a railway launching system, soviets had those in the old days too
 
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pla101prc

Senior Member
CADPAT was developed by the Canadian military over a 20 year period and implemented in early 2000 in the CF. The US Marines later with research information from Canada developed their own MARPAT.

Actually it is not very appealing to the human eyes. It is actually very effective against digital visual equipment such as night visions and camera systems used in APV, tanks and cameras on recon aircraft.

As far as I know, the PLA is only the 3rd military to use DPAT BDUs. India's military actually made it a point that they were very impressed with the PLA's DPAT BDUs. I am very impressed that they are using it as a paint scheme on the vehicles which is a first that I know of !

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the wiki article is depressing, the CF is not issuing CADPAT boots but sticking with black ones, that means we still have to polish them :(
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
Thats not DF-31A (if it exists). Thats the old DF-31 vehicle launcher and cannister. Barring the camoflage, they havent change it a bit since the 1999 parade...

its been 10 years since df-31 made its first appearance, its more likely than not that since then the PLA would have a program to either modify 31 or develop a new model to replace DF-5
 

Violet Oboe

Junior Member
Whether there will be a parade in 2014 is definitely to decide by then new incumbent leader Xi Jinping. Generally there exists no rule that a national day parade is held only one time in a decade since after 1984 the next parade was indeed planned for 1989 but had to be canceled for obvious reasons.

Without doubt it would be pointless to conduct a parade without enough impressive progress to show off but PLA is now in a rapid build up phase and in five years they will have certainly many new ´toys´ on display. (Additionally this kind of parades are quite important for PRC's deterrence policy since China has not conducted large scale warfare for decades and will probably not do so for at least a further 10 years. So adding a couple of ´shows´ to the schedule, possibly also for the next round birthday of PLAN, is not a bad idea...)

Moreover it is well known that Xi Jinping is much more assertive about foreign and military policy issues than Hu Jintao and consequentially this may give PLA a higher public profile in the future. (Though of course we will have to wait and see..!:coffee:)
 
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pla101prc

Senior Member
i'd say Xi Jinping's foreign policy is unknown. and its not entirely up to him but also Li Keqiang and other bureaucrats as well as China's practical needs.
the decade rule isnt written anywhere but Xi Jinping would not be able to accumulate enough support, prestige and practical accomplishment to merit a military parade two years into his presidency.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Personally I rather be looking at the women forces marching along in their Jackboots, like the women military and the women detachment dreesed in Red in the 1999 parade.What did they belong to?

Are jackboots still part of the military issue are are they only for parades?
 

Violet Oboe

Junior Member
Naturally Xi Jinping has to hedge his bets for some years to come but he is indeed more assertive (though you have to listen carefully!) in adressing Chinese interests in discussions with foreign officials though some guys dismiss that as mere semantics.

Of course Xi will have to consolidate his position after assuming the three ´power positions´ in 2012/13 and also establish a working equilibrium with ever wily Li Keqiang but he will also have to win over the top brass in CMC. Possibly forging an alliance with the generals could give Xi Jinping the necessary room for maneuver for implementing his further policy aims.
 
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