PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread
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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II
in the future, can you provide some real summary rather than just posting these videos? A lot of people here don't understand mandarin.
Ambivalent
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GBU II's can now hit moving targets as small as a pick up truck. This has been demonstrated in testing. In Serbia cruise missiles were accurately guided through the windows of buildings. Now the aim points can be adjusted in flight by on board video and data links to the launch platform. The cruise missile will give you a live video feed right to impact for what we euphemistically call "real time battle damage assessment". If your primary target has been hit by an earlier cruise missile a second cruise missile may be reprogrammed in flight for a new target. Check out how SLAMER works for an example, but even Norway's new cruise missile has these features. You have seen the video's even from GWI of LGB's entering the ventilation shafts of Iraqi bunkers. This is not science fiction. Fixed shelters don't buy much protection any more and modern penetrator warheads can pass through meters of concrete. Sophisticated fusing will even allow specific floors of a building to be destroyed as a bomb passes through from the top.
GBU II's can now hit moving targets as small as a pick up truck. This has been demonstrated in testing. In Serbia cruise missiles were accurately guided through the windows of buildings. Now the aim points can be adjusted in flight by on board video and data links to the launch platform. The cruise missile will give you a live video feed right to impact for what we euphemistically call "real time battle damage assessment". If your primary target has been hit by an earlier cruise missile a second cruise missile may be reprogrammed in flight for a new target. Check out how SLAMER works for an example, but even Norway's new cruise missile has these features. You have seen the video's even from GWI of LGB's entering the ventilation shafts of Iraqi bunkers. This is not science fiction. Fixed shelters don't buy much protection any more and modern penetrator warheads can pass through meters of concrete. Sophisticated fusing will even allow specific floors of a building to be destroyed as a bomb passes through from the top.
Ambivalent
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Well, that's the open source figure, the actual capability is different.
Well, that's the open source figure, the actual capability is different.
Pointblank
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And if push comes to shove, we got the GBU-57A/B, also known as the Massive Ordnance Penetrator. GPS guided, it is deployed from either the B-1 or B-2 bomber, and will easily punch through 60m of 5,000 psi reinforced concrete.
And I especially don't like the idea of placing my SLBM assets in a cave; if I was a smart enemy, I would target the entrances to the cave with my weapons, and trap anyone and anything inside the cave.
And if push comes to shove, we got the GBU-57A/B, also known as the Massive Ordnance Penetrator. GPS guided, it is deployed from either the B-1 or B-2 bomber, and will easily punch through 60m of 5,000 psi reinforced concrete.
And I especially don't like the idea of placing my SLBM assets in a cave; if I was a smart enemy, I would target the entrances to the cave with my weapons, and trap anyone and anything inside the cave.
Damingli85
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Or we could be like America and send them out to hide under the sea.
Or we could be like America and send them out to hide under the sea.
Pointblank
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A good sonar operator and a good set of equipment and sound processors can filter noise makers out very quickly; remember, the sets used on our sonars are very similar to those being used for oceanographic research; they have to filter out background and other unrelated noises and detect very faint sources of sound being masked by ocean conditions.
And in the great game of nuclear chicken, being forewarned about a war is a luxury. Those subs would be dead after their shadows fire their torpedoes at a easy to find target before they would have a chance to return to port. And to remove something large from a submarine would require a few weeks worth of dry dock. Not worth it.
A good sonar operator and a good set of equipment and sound processors can filter noise makers out very quickly; remember, the sets used on our sonars are very similar to those being used for oceanographic research; they have to filter out background and other unrelated noises and detect very faint sources of sound being masked by ocean conditions.
And in the great game of nuclear chicken, being forewarned about a war is a luxury. Those subs would be dead after their shadows fire their torpedoes at a easy to find target before they would have a chance to return to port. And to remove something large from a submarine would require a few weeks worth of dry dock. Not worth it.
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Not so easy. How you know that noise is not from the engine. Maybe that noise is part of system shouldn't be filter out. That's tough call to differentiate what noise is non-related and what noise is intrinsic. You don't have exact system so how do you do know what to expect beforehand?
Not so easy. How you know that noise is not from the engine. Maybe that noise is part of system shouldn't be filter out. That's tough call to differentiate what noise is non-related and what noise is intrinsic. You don't have exact system so how do you do know what to expect beforehand?