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tygyg1111

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The West is full of liars and manipulators and the Chinese are guilty of letting them get away with it by their do nothing attitude. No one is recognizing China taking the high road as some Chinese proclaim. As usual Asians who are susceptible to valuing being the sycophant or the teacher's pet don't see how everyone hates them because they are only looking out for themselves and are willing to trade for a lesser position as long as they think they're better than everyone else. The people who brag about taking the high road are blinded by the fact it says everyone else is lower than them. And when it regards the West, there's a contradiction because these people expect to be respected by the West by lauding taking the high road while saying they do not.

The reason why is because Asians hold respecting authority as paramount. I believe in respecting authority... if they deserve it. But Asians respect authority to a fault. They're told to respect people as authorities for something like as simply as because they're older. Older people can be assholes and don't deserve that kind of respect. I know of a family where the two parents have mental problems. It probably happened because of an arranged marriage where their parents thought it was an appropriate arrangement. Well that couple had children together and when they got old enough, they rebelled against their parents' crazy paranoid values. The extended family came in to rectify the problem and who did they side with? They sided with the parents even though they were crazy. Why? Because the children have to obey their parents(the authority) no matter what. As years went by, I've seen some of those children and they ain't normal.

Some Asians believe there are no exceptions. And why do they believe that? Because Asians are big on creating a harmonious society. Sounds great but what does that really mean? A harmonious society basically means no complaining happens so that society works. That's impossible because there's someone that always has a gripe especially when resources are finite. Asian culture tells people to accept their fate and don't complain because having a harmonious society takes precedent. Some people can argue Hitler was a man of peace. Yeah if everyone just did what he wanted blindly and without complaints, that could be argued he was for creating a harmonious world.

A while ago there was a discussion in this thread over how "overseas" Chinese have problematic values and tend to be self-hating traitors because they're exposed to the West. I would argue they're acting very Chinese. Whether you like it or not by how Asians view what an authority is, the West is an authority. They built the richest and most powerful culture on the planet beating everyone else. Who ever taught Asians to blindly respect and revere authority, Lao Tzu, Confucius, whoever..., never saw anyone but someone that looked them being seen as the authority. Whoever it was... they're an authority and of course they didn't want anyone to question them so they put it out there respecting authority is paramount no matter what. That's why you see so many traitorous Chinese that will side with the West no matter how immoral their ascent to power came. People in power want people fighting for their respect even if it means fighting with each other. There's a basic selfishness involved and that's why Asians have no problem being a sycophant or teacher's pet even though by nature everyone else hates them. All they see is their position above everyone else even if they're not number one.

Even in Beijing there are those that see the West as the authority hence why being respected by the West is important to them. And that means to them don't get them angry by complaining. Hence why Beijing has done nothing when the West acts against China thinking that also works at getting their respect. Has it worked? So many Chinese so naive that they think the West will recognize and respect them by how the Chinese did nothing against their insults. How has China been rewarded? The worst relations since the darkest days of the Cold War. If only the West saw the kind of optimism the Chinese have for them. Because they don't, that should spell it out for the Chinese but no. It's because the Chinese hold out on their twisted sense of respecting authority will be rewarded.


Chinese EVs are only at 4% of the European market and somehow they see that as a threat when 40% of Volkswagen's total profits come from China alone? Then there was talk recently how Chinese EVs aren't selling well in Europe because the final price when they reach Europe after duties and taxes make it too expensive. So what's this worry over cheap Chinese EVs flooding Europe? How will Beijing react when Europe slaps a Trump-like tariff on Chinese EVs? Let me guess... They will be measured in their response because Beijing doesn't want to come off as emotional and rash thinking they will scores points for it. The only reason why Europe thinks it can get away with it is because they are counting on the Chinese being measured and not saying it like it is.

Chinese retaliation has to be immediate. Look at the supposed iPhone ban imposed by Beijing. The US is complaining when they've shut out Huawei phones from the US years ago. That's what happens when you don't retaliate in kind... immediately. While the Chinese arrogantly think it makes them look civilized and not motivated by emotion, the West thinks Chinese inaction means it's okay. Then when China does take action, the West forgets why and thinks this it's Chinese aggression out of nowhere spurring more antagonism because they think they've been wronged.

The Chinese are caught in this twisted irony where they want to elevate the West because when they favor you it means it's more valuable. But then that causes Western elitism where they think they can establish inequitable relations with everyone else and think that's okay. Look at Japan and South Korea? Japanese and South Koreans are being attacked on the streets of the West and yet just as long as the West likes them better than China, it's okay with them.

The West is always charging that China's system doesn't work. No, it's the Western system that doesn't work because it requires the West to be in control of everything and everyone or else they become paranoid and antagonistic. The reason why supply chains are an issue to them like never before is because there are competitors like China to the West that outbid them for the world's resources. They can't afford world market value and need the world's resources on the cheap or for free like how it was during Western colonialism. The world accepts competing with the West because that's how it is now but the West doesn't like it the other way around. The West wants the world to pick sides. Do you see China demanding the world to pick them over the West? So who's the one that can't live in their own Western capitalistic competition? The only way they can live with China is when China is essentially their slave. They aren't going to say that out loud but that's what they're angling at. Take a look at how much they're doing to decouple from China. But somehow they can't take their charges that China is cheating and stealing to the WTO or through any other international body? It's because they have no proof that it's actually happening. They have to charge it so they can look like the victim so they can spin they can decouple with China but China can't decouple with them. And most of this could have been mitigated if China dared to fight back in kind.
I just want to add a tidbit to this, in that I see this behaviour mostly in Cantonese background immigrants (and their children) who migrated in the 80's and earlier, who ended up doing restaurant / cleaning work (lowest rung of society), less so than mainland migrants of the 90's who were university educated and ended up mostly in academic / technical professional roles.
The successful mainland academics seem to be mostly pro-China, and their views and values rub off on their children (higher self and cultural esteem, despite the environment).
 

luminary

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You nailed it. This 'high road' behavior and attitude to authority is prevalent in every level. Take the SCS disputes for example. Instead of high roading weak countries like Philipine by showing mercy, the correct response is to impose authority. When they see you as equal or below, they will you as threat and competitor. When you establish authority, they will follow even if the process is unpleasant. No one buys China's high road behavior precisely because it would implied they are below China, which they will never accept.
I would say it is actually the opposite. China treating the Western nations and their sepoys with respect, in their eyes, shows weakness because the West know they are not deserving of attention, much less respect. I think subconsciously the West understands they lack a fundamental part of civilized behavior and have only gotten where they are through the most underhanded and genocidal strategies.

By showing them respect, China displays ignorance of the West's culture and history and a colonized mentality (believing the white man, their overlords, are more virtuous than they are). How can Westerners respect China if China cannot even recognize them as the scum they are?
 

delta115

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Sinophobes love to circle jerk on polls conducted exclusively in American allied nations by organizations such as Pew about negative perceptions of China. Once the global south is taken into account, the picture is usually flipped 180.

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I actually chuckle as Japanese result...

It's like they refuse to accept their glorious past of asia top dog is already gone and there are no one to blamed but themselves.
Although, the result from US, Malaysia and India are actually quite suprisingly higher than expected for China.
 
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I actually chuckle as Japanese result...

It's like they refuse to accept their glorious past of asia top dog is already gone and there are no one to blamed but themselves.
Although, the result from US, Malaysia and India are actually quite suprisingly higher than expected for China.
Malaysian government has good relations with China and I think in past polls the people are usually pretty positive in their views of China.
 

pmc

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This is being largely ignored by the MSM, but looks like things are heating up here again.
It seem some one written why Russia does not help Armenia. Armenia does not support Russia in Ukraine conflict but more important those regions are surrounded by Russian muslims. only survival of Armenia in that place is convert to Saudi form of Islam.
Azerbaijan is racing ahead of Armenia in demographics.
 
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azn_cyniq

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I actually chuckle as Japanese result...

It's like they refuse to accept their glorious past of asia top dog is already gone and there are no one to blamed but themselves.
Although, the result from US, Malaysia and India are actually quite suprisingly higher than expected for China.
The United States didn't become the strongest country in the world by accident. There are a lot of smart people here, although most Americans are hopelessly ignorant. Smart Americans can usually see through the propaganda.
 

ansy1968

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The United States didn't become the strongest country in the world by accident. There are a lot of smart people here, although most Americans are hopelessly ignorant. Smart Americans can usually see through the propaganda.
BECause smart people don't want to advertise themselves only dumb people do. ;)

And usually Smart people are busy working unlike stupid people who indulge themselves to idle talk as they had more free time to do so.

At least in the US there are a large percentage that had a brain to think, in the Bharat land almost none exist thus Smart people are in the engendered list a long time ago. ;)
 
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