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manqiangrexue

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While the Indians "with actual drive, passion, grit, and the talent to match recognize the better opportunities" in India and everywhere in the world. These Indians see far beyond than just meets the eye and fight and worked their way to be part of the economic and political leadership in many countries around the world.
And they left India in their dust on their way out. That's why they will forever be guests eeking out a life in someone else's home compared to Chinese masters proud of our own home.
 

Nobo

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While the Indians "with actual drive, passion, grit, and the talent to match recognize the better opportunities" in India and everywhere in the world.
Then why are they found else where more than in India?
These Indians see far beyond than just meets the eye and fight and worked their way to be part of the economic and political leadership in many countries around the world.
Actually they are easy read. Their talent is mostly scamming & call centers. Their hard worked integration in politics are merely for their usefulness to their masters as punching bag. Easy. Thats why they most noisy while generally ignored.
 
While the Indians "with actual drive, passion, grit, and the talent to match recognize the better opportunities" in India and everywhere in the world. These Indians see far beyond than just meets the eye and fight and worked their way to be part of the economic and political leadership in many countries around the world.
With 1.4 billion people and extremely limited ability to absorb top level talent domestically, what do you expect? China's ability to absorb top level talent is magnitudes higher than India. Top level talent is something you want your country to be a net importer of, not net exporter. And frankly, being economic/political leadership of most countries is meaningless, akin to being director of a 10-person organization. Only two countries matter in this regard, the US and China. Indian-origin people in top ranks of US's junior allies are just Indian-origin people that couldn't climb to the top ranks in the US.
 

SDtom

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LOLOL Who will? You are stuck in a mentality where Chinese need to be in the West. If a society discriminates against you, you don't need to speak up and fight for youself in someone else's house. You go home and you make your home better than his. This is the mentality of a true superpower; your mentality is of rats trying to carve out a living in the lion's den.

Whatever you think of those Chinese in western countries needed to be there or not, the fact is that they are there. They are citizens of those countries, they have build their live there with, career, home, families, and communities. If someone or some group discriminates/attacks you or your family you shouldn't become a coward, defeatist or loser and flee back to China, you should stand up, speak up and fight back (leagally). Those Chinese needs to be brave and have the courage and ability to fight back any discrimination and ovecome any challenges.
 
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manqiangrexue

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Whatever you think of those Chinese in western countries needed to be there or not, the fact is that they are there. They are citizens of those countries, they have build their live there with, career, home, families, and communities. If someone or some group discriminates/attacks you or your family you shouldn't become a coward, defeatist or loser and flee back to China, you should stand up, speak up and fight back (leagally).
Do what your enemy fears the most. Nobody in the US fears your complaints or your desperate attempts to clutch onto your life in their home, and the area that they hold full control over. They fear you taking your valueable skills to China. China as a nation benefits from them coming. Their lives in America do not benefit China; oftentimes, they benefit America. I care about China. I don't care about Chinese people who don't care about China.

Your arguments are dead compared to what they were. You started out praising Indians and now you're just saying Chinese people should stand up for ourselves. Sure. I don't really care to waste my time on that topic. Do or don't, if they need to stay in the US, these aren't the Chinese people worth my time talking about. If someone attacks me, I'm phyically fighting back to my full capacity. That's a personal choice I don't care to discuss further.
 

SDtom

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And that legal fight isn't Indian way of fighting. Someone punches me, I punch them back. I don't beg them to vote for me, or beg them to extend visa opportunities , which is Indian way of "fighting".

Climbing the corporate and political ladder can be and is dirty sometimes but if you don't have what it takes then you stay down there in the indistinguish-ness.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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It's not even that. China's tradition is gen 1 line cook/delivery boy, gen 2 doctor/scientist/engineer. It's the inherent cultural difference. India was thorougly colonized and dominated by Western culture so they see a guy who wears an expensive suit and runs his mouth for a job as the idol image. Chinese culture upholds the strong and silent type; one of the best compliments in Chinese is to say, "He has few words and his work is impeccable." We Chinese think it's a blessing to have much more than what meets the eye, to wear undistinguished clothing, to speak little, but to have the highest degree and greatest innovative ability in the group. The Western ideal of a man focused on his looks and making presentations all day while himself NOT being a qualified scientist or maker of the work he's selling is seen in China as a "grass dumpling" something that looks great on the outside but is actually worthless inside. The Chinese ideal is suitable for being an introverted scientist, as so many Chinese are, and improving national power and technology, but not suitable for being a politician or perceived leader in the West.

I heard "reduce scientific output, increase mouth output, spend more money on suits". Sounds easy enough.
 
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