future plaaf's flanker upgrade

MIGleader

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i never said copy the su35!!! all i said was take sme of its features, such as canards, and put them on the su-27s china has. a few inches wont make a big difference....
now, to shed some light
Phazotron Zhuk-PH phased-array radar under development for later use, search range 89 to 132 n miles (165 to 245 km; 102 to 152 miles) in forward sector, 32 n miles (60 km; 37 miles) rearward, with simultaneous tracking of 24 air targets and ripple-fire engagement of six; N014 rearward-facing radar, range approximately 2 n miles (4 km; 2.5 miles), may enable firing of rearward-facing IR homing air-to-air missiles.

will they sell it?
 

tphuang

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MIGleader said:
i never said copy the su35!!! all i said was take sme of its features, such as canards, and put them on the su-27s china has. a few inches wont make a big difference....
now, to shed some light
Phazotron Zhuk-PH phased-array radar under development for later use, search range 89 to 132 n miles (165 to 245 km; 102 to 152 miles) in forward sector, 32 n miles (60 km; 37 miles) rearward, with simultaneous tracking of 24 air targets and ripple-fire engagement of six; N014 rearward-facing radar, range approximately 2 n miles (4 km; 2.5 miles), may enable firing of rearward-facing IR homing air-to-air missiles.

will they sell it?
yeah, they will sell it for sure. There are certain things that Russians can keep in its banks and certain things they can't. This is one of the things they have to sell just to compete with other countries.
 

Chairman Hu

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So the dimensions are different between the Su-27 and the Su-35

Yea I stick by you on this MiGLeader, just think of it as a smaller Su-35, redo the front and add carnads, replace the systems and fit more better ones, and maybe add some pylons, just like technically copy somethings on the Su-35 and leave other things, since you're upgrading it to a Su-35 level, might as well borrow some ideas, save thinking time
 

MIGleader

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tphuang said:
yeah, they will sell it for sure. There are certain things that Russians can keep in its banks and certain things they can't. This is one of the things they have to sell just to compete with other countries.

russian banks are empty!!!!
yep. the su-35 was already offered to venzuela
 

Gauntlet

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Hey, MiGleader...do you honestly know what you are talking about?

I mean...its not just to saw of the front part of an Su-35 and weld it onto a fuselage from a Su-27SK or a J-11...

You will have to reconfigure much of the airplane in order to just mount canards. Even if think they are "small" upgrades, the planes center of gravity and weight distribute will be out of balance.

And it aint just to screw them in with a phillips scredriver either, you will have to change the entire control settings and mount servos/hydraulics (dont realy know what moves the canards?) were they should be mounted.

And dude, as someone else said here, the Flanker-E aint just a field modification to the Flanker-B. Its an actual brand new fuselage, with enlarged control surfaces, due to the higher weight (more weapons and fuel), improved avionics and an overall newer technology used.
 

MIGleader

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Gauntlet said:
Hey, MiGleader...do you honestly know what you are talking about?

I mean...its not just to saw of the front part of an Su-35 and weld it onto a fuselage from a Su-27SK or a J-11...

You will have to reconfigure much of the airplane in order to just mount canards. Even if think they are "small" upgrades, the planes center of gravity and weight distribute will be out of balance.

And it aint just to screw them in with a phillips scredriver either, you will have to change the entire control settings and mount servos/hydraulics (dont realy know what moves the canards?) were they should be mounted.

And dude, as someone else said here, the Flanker-E aint just a field modification to the Flanker-B. Its an actual brand new fuselage, with enlarged control surfaces, due to the higher weight (more weapons and fuel), improved avionics and an overall newer technology used.

yes, i know what im talking about. the first russian su-35 was nothing exept a slightly modified canard fitted su-27
 

tphuang

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let's get one thing straight. There is the su-35 and su-35BM. The latter is much more advanced. The first su-35 was not really all that impressive.
 
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