Foreign Military In China Pre Ww2

Finn McCool said:

Grahamsh, I was just wondering about foreign navies in China during this period in general. I know that Germany had an East Asiatic Squadron pre-WWI, and England [UK tee hee G ] did as well, and that there were lots of foreign gunboats on China's main rivers, but I was wondering if you could hook me up with some sweet info and tell me a little about the naval situation in China, both at sea and on the rivers, during this time. Please?

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Right....let me see what info I have with me (plenty in books and files back home in UK ) or refs I can find on web.

What period are you talking about, can you define a time span ?

Finn McCool said:

Grahamsh, I was just wondering about foreign navies in China during this period in general. I know that Germany had an East Asiatic Squadron pre-WWI, and England did as well, and that there were lots of foreign gunboats on China's main rivers, but I was wondering if you could hook me up with some sweet info and tell me a little about the naval situation in China, both at sea and on the rivers, during this time. Please?

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OK having had a rummage about, the Imperial German Navy had its 'East Asia Squadron' based Tsingtao at outbreak of WW1. It consisted of :

SMS Gneiesnau (heavy cruiser)
SMS Scharnhorst (heavy cruiser)
SMS Emden (light cruiser)
SMS Leipzig (light cruiser)
SMS Nuremberg (light cruiser)
Kaiserin Elizabeth (Austro-Hungarian cruiser)
SMS Iltis (gunboat)
SMS Jaguar (gunboat)
SMS Tiger (gunboat)
SMS Luchs (gunboat)
SMS Lauting (minelayer)
SMS Otter (river gunboat)
SMS Tsingtao (river gunboat)
SMS Vaterland (river gunboat)
S-90 (torpedo boat)
Taku (torpedo boat)

You/others can no doubt Google and find out more about these ships if you're interested

I've got a book about the UK Yangtze river patrol and will put some stuff up on this when I get a chance.

no they are not german, thats a chinese division armed with Sdkfz 222 and complete german uniform


chinese soldier with german gas protection uniform

Chiang Kai-shek's son Chiang Wei-kuo got military training in germany and a nice nazi uniform aswell

German expeditionary corps being send to china in 1911


German Navy Soldiers in Bejing


General Graf von Waldersee taking command of the combined european forces (63.000men, 24.000 of them german)


Soldiers with conquered Boxer flags


beheading of the revolutionary chinese by jap military (dark look into future)

German Soldiers on the great wall


Postcard


German troops in front of the chinese kaiser's palace in bejing


Chinese prince sung gives "letter of being sorry" (lol?) to the german kaiser willhelm II


Signing peace of bejing in 1901

ger_mark said:

German troops in front of the chinese kaiser's palace in bejing

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I didn't know that China had a Kaiser. Lol.

I have this book called the Boxer Rebellion. Very interesting read. The Boxers were pretty disorganized, as they were unbable to defeat a couple hundred Europeans, American and Japanese troops supported by some civillians and thousands of Chinese converts who didn't fight in the MIDDLE OF BEIJING, even thought they had (if I remember right) about two months to do it!



Look how massive those walls are. I'm not sure but I think the entire city of Beijing circa 1900 is inside them. They're huge! The foreign militaries assaulted them when they rescued the aforementioned trapped Europeans in Peking's Legation Quarter. Probably the last time a military attacked walls like that. Maybe in the Japanese Invasion in 1937.

foreign military in China ay? Well i guess Hong Kong can be counted as one, with British troops, Japanes troops also was stationed there for a while. Around a couple of months ago a bunch of ammuntion was found under a suburb in Hong Kong, by my observations they looked like bazookas, mortars and some grenades not sure abt any firearms tough, they've all been destroyed. Authorities have said that they were mostly Japanese explosives. Australian Troops have also been in Hong Kong as POW's. Think there's more but that's all i know ha!

QBZ957 said:

foreign military in China ay? Well i guess Hong Kong can be counted as one, with British troops, Japanes troops also was stationed there for a while. Around a couple of months ago a bunch of ammuntion was found under a suburb in Hong Kong, by my observations they looked like bazookas, mortars and some grenades not sure abt any firearms tough, they've all been destroyed. Authorities have said that they were mostly Japanese explosives. Australian Troops have also been in Hong Kong as POW's. Think there's more but that's all i know ha!

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Hi, yeah sure, lots of activity in HK, although my question really related to the mainland. No pbs

Still finding ammo etc huh ? Careful when you dig !

Boxer Rebellion Pics

Here are some foreign soldiers in Beijing. They look like Americans from the Relief Force.



A Boxer



Japan sent more troops to join the force that rescued the foreigners in Beijing than any of the European countries. Here are some of them.



Here is a picture or a painting (can't tell) of Allied troops storming the city Tianjin.



The Bengal Lancers enter Peking.



What happened to all my pics?!

HMS Dauntless on the Yangtse 1927

My father once told me that he'd been on a British warship that sailed up the Yangtse:


That was about all he said.

Years later at the National Archives I found from the logbook of one of his ships, HMS Dauntless, that in 1927 they had indeed followed a route that included trips up the Yangtse


Unfortunately the logbook didn't tell me much more than that. Where can I find out more about this and related operations?