Finnish army thread
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Jones Henry
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Since i today live in Finland i know a litle about the Finish army
Sorry to say this "kuolevainen" but i think they need a "make over" My plan would be a small specialiced force. I think, that for now a years mandatory military service migh still do good(even for us more multicultural )fins, but it shouldnt be that series. EVERYONE has known since the Cuban missile crisis what would happens, if Finland goes to a war with Russia! So "kuolevainen", everybody knows, that they will literally bomb and burn the living shit out of you(sorry for the harsh language) And today mother Russia has made an alliance with Asias rising start China. She has allready her own antimatter ptoject on the way just like the US. New, difficult to trace stealth plains and missiles. Personally, id recomend good relations with Russia Do not try to change you border with them(and the same goes for Estonia as well!) Do not deliberatly make them pissed. Russia is acually a declining nation, because of there low birthrate, for a European country still quite high death toll and immigration! Anyway, Russias atention is now 90% focused on the caucasus, midle-east, the pacifig and Asia! Personally, i think Finland should get a good airforce! Then you would need missiles(maybe with movable lauch boards)and ofcourse a NUKE! Surdenly mother Russia would get quite pissed off once shed realice that Finland has gotten herself a new toy, but you really shouldnt let them scare you. You should have enough movable nukes(cruise missiles laucnhed from both the air and the sea?)so Russia could not attack Finland without having saint petersbugh nuked! Lets face it;WMD:s always save the day You could develope your own WMD:s mostly by yourself, and then say, that if Russia makes a fuz out of it, youll call USA in to the conlicft, wich has really bad relations with Russia mostly do to Iran and China. The Russians will not risk it;they got enough of there own problems! Just tell them, that if they try to "chek the border" anymore to the west youll nuke Pietari and the Murmansk subbase. The Russians would possibly use nukes in an attack against Finland anyway("mininukes")so it's really wouldnt be a big deal. They wont attack! They dont have the man power, they dont have the money, and ALL there atention is practicly focused on somwhere else! Ofcourse it dosent mean you should give up your regional forces, but please try to make the training a bit more intrestetting and motivated. WMD:s are the ONLY thing that will keep mother Russia off your back for good, trust my on this
Sorry to say this "kuolevainen" but i think they need a "make over" My plan would be a small specialiced force. I think, that for now a years mandatory military service migh still do good(even for us more multicultural )fins, but it shouldnt be that series. EVERYONE has known since the Cuban missile crisis what would happens, if Finland goes to a war with Russia! So "kuolevainen", everybody knows, that they will literally bomb and burn the living shit out of you(sorry for the harsh language) And today mother Russia has made an alliance with Asias rising start China. She has allready her own antimatter ptoject on the way just like the US. New, difficult to trace stealth plains and missiles. Personally, id recomend good relations with Russia Do not try to change you border with them(and the same goes for Estonia as well!) Do not deliberatly make them pissed. Russia is acually a declining nation, because of there low birthrate, for a European country still quite high death toll and immigration! Anyway, Russias atention is now 90% focused on the caucasus, midle-east, the pacifig and Asia! Personally, i think Finland should get a good airforce! Then you would need missiles(maybe with movable lauch boards)and ofcourse a NUKE! Surdenly mother Russia would get quite pissed off once shed realice that Finland has gotten herself a new toy, but you really shouldnt let them scare you. You should have enough movable nukes(cruise missiles laucnhed from both the air and the sea?)so Russia could not attack Finland without having saint petersbugh nuked! Lets face it;WMD:s always save the day You could develope your own WMD:s mostly by yourself, and then say, that if Russia makes a fuz out of it, youll call USA in to the conlicft, wich has really bad relations with Russia mostly do to Iran and China. The Russians will not risk it;they got enough of there own problems! Just tell them, that if they try to "chek the border" anymore to the west youll nuke Pietari and the Murmansk subbase. The Russians would possibly use nukes in an attack against Finland anyway("mininukes")so it's really wouldnt be a big deal. They wont attack! They dont have the man power, they dont have the money, and ALL there atention is practicly focused on somwhere else! Ofcourse it dosent mean you should give up your regional forces, but please try to make the training a bit more intrestetting and motivated. WMD:s are the ONLY thing that will keep mother Russia off your back for good, trust my on this
you thougth Gollevainen is corrupted word of kuolevainen?
well mayby not nukes ...they tend to piss lots of bigger nations headmen and women. besides, if the curend wind keeps blowing, we find our selves pretty deep inside of NATo or whatever comes from the EU's military element...
well mayby not nukes
...they tend to piss lots of bigger nations headmen and women. besides, if the curend wind keeps blowing, we find our selves pretty deep inside of NATo or whatever comes from the EU's military element...Jones Henry
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Gollevainen said:you thougth Gollevainen is corrupted word of kuolevainen?
well mayby not nukes
Thats true! But i still belive, that Finland should have modern armed forces. Just in case something goes wrong(The original Russian empire allready fell in 1918, but they STILL came after you again in 1939. This proves they can be somewhat persistent
) Finland could have a nuke as a part of the EU army. I think, that both eastern-europe, balkan and Russia should also join the EU And im sure in time it will happen, because without the EU there really can be no peace in Europe. The EU should also improve it's ties with the China-India axis, and distant itself from the US, wich i think is a bad influence. Anyway i think, that immigrant crime today is a lot bigger threat to Finland then the Russian armed forces(wich are being integrated with China for a possible fight with the US)'Lavi' is a Hebrew word, which I've taken from the IAI fighter prototype, but I'm from Finland really.
I think that a conscript army still can be a great benefit for Finland, a small country who needs to use all resources it has if invaded by a bigger country (we all know who I talk about ). However, increasing the amount of professionals in the army and/or joining NATO surely would add to the defensive credibility of the Finnish defence.
I think that a conscript army still can be a great benefit for Finland, a small country who needs to use all resources it has if invaded by a bigger country (we all know who I talk about
). However, increasing the amount of professionals in the army and/or joining NATO surely would add to the defensive credibility of the Finnish defence.
joining in nato or going to more deeper inside EUs defence programs migth make us armed forced look nicer but also it gives Russia lot more reasons to attack us, not mention all other trouples in differnt parts of the world were bush (or his followers) had decided to attack. Thougth it was Stalin who started the winter war, we didint do nothing to prevent it, and im firm believer that if the foreing policy of us back in 20's and 30's wouldnt have been led by those AKS facist, Stalin would have felt himself far more safer on our part of his borders. The key to small countryes survival is to assure biggers that we arent any thread, not shout it up to their face that we are...I dont like to see same things to happen again.
Jones Henry
Banned Idiot
Gollevainen said:
Russia is truly a great nation:two great empires in only about a thousand years
But i think they just dont have the "human capital" for another "empire" For now Russia will first try a revenge against the US. And a good tool for this is a Sino-Russian alliance. I still dont think they want a war(Armageddon)with the US. All the players in the great game are just playing time. The US will invest A LOT[/B ]in there missile shiled, wich i talked about before. Personally, i really dont think it will never work, but i could be wrong It's just that the the other party will get EMP weapons, and super sonic stealth missiles. I think the US knows, that this time it cant just SAY it has a missile shield;they also need to prove it works atleast 90% They know there also running out of money, and have only about a 5-10 year advantage to there opponents, while in the "original" cold war it wasmore like 20. I think the US is losing it. One thing that im afraid of is, that they will try a "pre-emtive" strike once the realize they cant make themselves invurnable. Theyll count on the fact, that Chinas and Russias second strike capability isnt that good, so they can block atleats most of there missiles. Or atleast they can threaten both China and Russia with a first strike(allready doing that with Iran
) I think it's time for China and Russia to start learning from the CIA(built "minibombs" and plant them in the enemy area) For Finland this can get quite troubeling, since the American nazi government might choose to hit targets(murmansk, saint petersburg)near Finland. Anyway, i think the US system will collapse economically anyway, but it still dosent mean they might not try a last desperate attempt (war?) Maybe a Finish nuke in this short of an eviorment is not the best solution ? But you must decide wich side to support(China or the US)because it is wery difficult to be "puolueeton" thede days!
Becouse the Paris peace treaty...all offencive weapons were banned. Althoug we no longer follow that threaty torbedoes have been so long out of service so it's actually quite difficoult to adapt to "new" systems.