Fc-20 = J-10?

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
Can we just concentrate what the above statement of PAF is implying, rather that what pak is allowed or Russian sensibilities??

What exactly is FC-20??

No idea but I don't think the J-11 will be exported and if exported, will probably use the F-11 or F-11M name instead.
 

Titanium

New Member
No idea but I don't think the J-11 will be exported and if exported, will probably use the F-11 or F-11M name instead.

Well, have you forgotten the naming logic of JF-17? If, J-11 happen to go Pakistan way it has to be something >17, isn't it???
 

SteelBird

Colonel
Well, have you forgotten the naming logic of JF-17? If, J-11 happen to go Pakistan way it has to be something >17, isn't it???

FC-20 can be anything but J-11! Or maybe it's just a rumour coz I don't see China is developing anything to be called FC-20. It doesn't make sense that Pakistan implies the J-11 to be FC-20. The reason is very simple, J-11 is not for Pakistan. You can't imply something which impossible for you to get.

To me, FC-20 may imply J-10 or a next joint developing fighter after FC-1/JF-17. That's all!
 

Titanium

New Member
FC-20 can be anything but J-11! Or maybe it's just a rumour coz I don't see China is developing anything to be called FC-20. It doesn't make sense that Pakistan implies the J-11 to be FC-20. The reason is very simple, J-11 is not for Pakistan. You can't imply something which impossible for you to get.

To me, FC-20 may imply J-10 or a next joint developing fighter after FC-1/JF-17. That's all!

J-10 is already accounted as F-10A, so what else left in Chinese development presently apart form J-11B?

36 F-10A aircraft will also be joining PAF, and more F-10s can be expected. Most probably we will also purchase FC-20 fighter aircraft from China.
 

Quickie

Colonel
J-10 is already accounted as F-10A, so what else left in Chinese development presently apart form J-11B?

Check out the latest posting in the J-10 thread. The aircraft seen in the picture's background might have something to do with this.

Edit: I meant the picture in the link provided.
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
Well, have you forgotten the naming logic of JF-17? If, J-11 happen to go Pakistan way it has to be something >17, isn't it???


No. Otherwise the J-10 would be F-(something > 17). But you see its F-10, not F-(X>17). The FC-1 can be numbered anything you like because it never had an official PLA number. The J-10 has, the J-11 has.
 

ikaleem

New Member
In Pakistan J-10 is indeed being termed as FC-20. The reason behind this was more political and Public Relations gimick. It was thought that J-10 may be concieved by the masses as inferior to F-16 already in Pak Airforce inventory. So the Pakistan Government coined this new name to appease the people who know nothing better. Knowing the Pakistani people and the vast majority will believe that they can still beat India only on the strength of their beliefs....well that tells you a lot.
By the way I myself and originally from Pakistan and have been in close contact with previous Air Chief as I held his personal accounts while working in the bank....
 

SteelBird

Colonel
J-10 is already accounted as F-10A, so what else left in Chinese development presently apart form J-11B?

Ah ha, you hight lighted my words. But why you didn't hight light those after "or"? You must make it clear that I never intend to say that FC-20 = J-10. My point is FC-20 might be anything or I even doubt that FC-20 exists. But it never be J-11!

OK, if you insist that FC-20 is J-11B, then just go on with it. I'm not interested in argueing it any more...
 

Londo Molari

Junior Member
In Pakistan J-10 is indeed being termed as FC-20. The reason behind this was more political and Public Relations gimick. It was thought that J-10 may be concieved by the masses as inferior to F-16 already in Pak Airforce inventory. So the Pakistan Government coined this new name to appease the people who know nothing better. Knowing the Pakistani people and the vast majority will believe that they can still beat India only on the strength of their beliefs....well that tells you a lot.
By the way I myself and originally from Pakistan and have been in close contact with previous Air Chief as I held his personal accounts while working in the bank....
ummm, the air chief marshal in the SAME interview said that PAF is looking at ordering 36-40 "F-10s" from China, which is superior to JF-17, and also FC-20s as high-tech aircraft in the future. I think the interview is quoted on page 1 of this thread.

So its pretty obvious that FC-20 is not J-10, and its not a public relations gimmick. You're making wild and unsubstantiated claims about the intelligence of an entire country's population, in a technical forum no less.
 
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