F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
- Thread starter Jeff Head
- Start date
Sooner or later, if the friction between the US and Turkey continues,,,and I for one hope it does not...this deal will be talked about and efforts will begin to limit the access to the technologies and the aircraft.
As a strong ally and NATO member...having them get it, particularly in their strategic location is a key component of long term US strategy.
But all of that flies out the window if Turkey goes off the ranch and makes nice with people like Vladimir, or others who are lining up as US adversaries.
Very interesting times.
I hope the next US President is smart enough, and savvy enough to work this out...and I have to say for me personally, there is no way that Hillary could do so. Her "Arab spring" brought down a long time US Ally and handed Egypt over to the Muslim Brotherhood which was a disaster for the US. Thank goodness the Egyptian military and people overthrew them...but it has hurt US - Egyptian relations, and understandably so. That same notion led to the disaster in Libya and Syria. The failed and ruinous "Russian reset" has also been a disaster of unbelievable proportions. Someone is going to have to go in and start turning all of that around and I just do not believe that the person who engineered all of that disaster is the one for the job.
Trump may have enough business and overall strategic sense to be able to do so...but things are happening right now that if they continue, are not going to make that easy for whomever it is.
Imperial hubris
Whatever we may call it...lets not go there.
I am sorry for going Off Topic, especially raising politics. My bad. It is off limits and should remain so.
SouthernSky
Junior Member
I don't think it's unreasonable to call into question both Turkey and Canada when in comes to participation in the F-35 program.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Turkey sits in one category Canada a totally different.
Canada is a close and reliable ally to the US and NATO, She is committed to participate in the F35 program no matter if she makes orders or not as Canada is deeply involved in the technological development of F35.
Turkey has been an important ally to the US and NATO but of late... Turkey has been having relationships with the east and west written like a Hollywood Tabloid talking about the latest Romance Gossip. One minute it's all buddy buddy the next it's hurling accusations and then it inverts as they are suddenly all over the other side.
Canada is a close and reliable ally to the US and NATO, She is committed to participate in the F35 program no matter if she makes orders or not as Canada is deeply involved in the technological development of F35.
Turkey has been an important ally to the US and NATO but of late... Turkey has been having relationships with the east and west written like a Hollywood Tabloid talking about the latest Romance Gossip. One minute it's all buddy buddy the next it's hurling accusations and then it inverts as they are suddenly all over the other side.
SouthernSky
Junior Member
I understand the differences between the two countries TE.
I do question the commitment of work share given to Canada on the program given it's lack of commitment to a purchase of the aircraft at this stage. I believe the US is happy to play the long game on this one though.
I do question the commitment of work share given to Canada on the program given it's lack of commitment to a purchase of the aircraft at this stage. I believe the US is happy to play the long game on this one though.
Agreed.
With the interest being shown around the world amons=gst non-patrnetr nations, I believe the US will come out very well in the F-35 [rogram overall.
The partner nations are:
Primary: United States
Level 1 partner: United Kingdom
Level 2 partners: Italy and the Netherlands
Level 3 partners: Australia, Canada, Denmark, Norway, Turkey
The US, UK, Italy, Netherlands, Australia, Denmark, and Norway are already receiving aircraft. Some of them talk about fewer numbers...but lets see what happens over the long haul as the price continues to drop.
Turkey is wanting to make a BIG commitment...but that also has to be played out in its security commitment to NATO, and particularly the US.
Canada's government is waffling.
But in addition to those, you now have:
Japan (whose first aircraft has already been rolled out in Ft. Worth)
Israel (whose first aircraft has also already been rolled out in Ft. Worth)
Korea
Making commitments.
I think that trend will continue, particularly as they go into full production and the pricing on the Alpha continues to drop. I also expect at some pint that Canada will elect a different administration that will ultimately buy the F-35....but we shall see.
I expect that in addition to the US and the UK, that Turkey (if it keeps it together) Japan, Korea, and Spain may all also ultimately buy some F-35Bs.
SouthernSky
Junior Member
Canada's hand will be forced sooner rather than later. Those Hornets aren't going to last for ever.
I do hope Australia remains true to it's earlier requirement of 100 F-35's. I'd like to see at least an additional squadron on top of that if I'm honest.
And no, I'm not about to say what model I'd like to see in that extra squadron.
I do hope Australia remains true to it's earlier requirement of 100 F-35's. I'd like to see at least an additional squadron on top of that if I'm honest.
And no, I'm not about to say what model I'd like to see in that extra squadron.