F-16 on F-16

Something that might interest you. Today a Turkish F-16 collided with a Greek F-16, due to tensions between the two. Apparently the Turkish was intercepting the Greek one. If these guys ever went to war, it would be U.S. hardware on each side. That would be interesting.

dprkpt,the turkish was intercepting the greek one or the greece was intercepting the turkish one?

f2000 said:

dprkpt,the turkish was intercepting the greek one or the greece was intercepting the turkish one?

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Two Greek F-16s were intercepting Turkish RF-4 and two F-16s… After interception they started usual pilot stuff (trying to see who has bigger d…) and managed to collide… They are still looking for Greek pilot, Turkish pilot is ok…

isthvan said:

Two Greek F-16s were intercepting Turkish RF-4 and two F-16s… After interception they started usual pilot stuff (trying to see who has bigger d…) and managed to collide… They are still looking for Greek pilot, Turkish pilot is ok…

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What? The article claimed the greek pilot was proclaimed dead.
So, going along with the article, how will this influence greek-turkey relations? i dont beleive we have many greek or turkish, so we should be fine discussing this.

MIGleader said:

What? The article claimed the greek pilot was proclaimed dead.
So, going along with the article, how will this influence greek-turkey relations? i dont beleive we have many greek or turkish, so we should be fine discussing this.

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Greek pilot died? I have only seen early Greek MOD announcement and did not know that pilot was proclaimed dead.
As for Turkish/ Greek relations I would said that it will be “business as usual”… Cold…
It is not like they didn’t do this sort of things before…

isthvan said:

Greek pilot died? I have only seen early Greek MOD announcement and did not know that pilot was proclaimed dead.
As for Turkish/ Greek relations I would said that it will be “business as usual”… Cold…
It is not like they didn’t do this sort of things before…

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It can certainly have bad effects on Turkey's bid for EU. European countries are already suspicious of Turkey. All in all a very bad incident that could have been avoided given the nature of high tech systems being operatd on both sides. But i guess this kind of shadow boxing is undertaken deliberately to gauge other side's readiness!!

I remember seeing an article that got emailed to me from Defence talk a few weeeks ago about Greek and Turkish F-16s engaging in dogfights over the Turkish side of the Aegean. They didn't fire, but they locked on to each other and then tried to evade and manuver for a lock on that would result in a kill, like they would in real combat. I think that the Air Froces are both escalating this, and with the confusion over who hit who, this incident will definately escalate things even more.

Well thougth this sound hars, but in European point of wiev, this migth end up good excuse to frozen Turkish noegoation process, until, Turks begun to really show some pregression in the needed Human rigth issues. Europe isent "ready" to take nations where people goes to prizon after they have said bad words about military or some of the national heroes...thats the realtity of 30's rigth-wing dictatures, not 2006 EU members

Sorry for all turks but thats just the way things are...
But EU would not allow Greeks to go on war over this, so I think ít will remain a just another unsolved&unfortuanate incident that again raises the age long rivalyes to the top...kinda sad after all

This has been going on for more than 30 years over the Aegean. According to a newspaper, since 1974 two greek and eight turkish aircraft have been lost to mechanical failures and collisions. The pattern is the same. Turkish aircraft enter Athens FIR without first submitting flight plans, Hellenic Air Force fighters come up to identify and intercept, and often dogfights take place. All that's missing is weapons firing.