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    Spain Issues Multiple Contracts to Upgrade Transport Fleet, Fighters
    11-Jun-2008 14:20 EDT

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    EAV-8B Matador

    In December 2006, Spain’s Minister’s Council has authorized a number of aircraft contracts in addition to their Eurocopter-related plans, creating more maritime patrol aircraft, expanding the transport fleet slightly, modernizing its EAV-8B Harriers/Matadors, and buying engines and spares for its CH-47 heavy-lift helicopter fleet. The total value of these contracts is over EUR 130 million.
    In June 2008, the Harrier modernization contract was announced by EADS. DID offers details below regarding the upgrade’s elements, scope, and final cost.

    DID thanks subscriber Pedro Lucio for bringing these items to our attention, and assisting with translations.

    4 Harriers to Receive Upgrades

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    AV-8B “day attack”

    The Ministers’ Council approved the modernization of 4 EAV-8B Matador aircraft to full Harrier II Plus configuration. The contract is worth EUR 10 million (currently about $13 million), with a funding distributed over 4 years from 2006-2009. The Spanish Navy operates a total of 17 EAV-8B aircraft.
    On June 11/08, EADS announced a EUR 11.5 million/ $17.8 million contract to upgrade 4 of the Navy’s AV-8B “day attack” Harriers. While many of Spain’s “Matador” aircraft are Harrier II+ standard, these aircraft are not. This upgrade will be performed by EADS in Spain, and allows the Spanish Navy to homogenize most of their fleet of Harrier aircraft to a common engine, navigation, operational software and missions planning system configuration that can conduct operations at night.

    The modernization will involve new Rolls Royce Pegasus 408A engines, Night Vision Goggle (NVG)-compatible cockpit controls and displays, external NVG lighting, new computers, a wide-field-of-view Head-Up Display, the installation of a new AN/ARC-210 Havequick communications system, an Automatic Target Handoff System (ATHS) and an advanced Global Positioning System (GPS), a new MINITACAN navigation system, a Digital Video Mapping System, and upgraded armament and electronic warfare capabilities.

    EADS Military Air Systems is also responsible for the Third Maintenance Level of the fixed-wing aircraft of the Spanish Navy, including comprehensive maintenance, overhaul and repair (MRO) activities such technical support, maintenance revision programs and structural repairs. This is being carried out within a EUR 7 million umbrella contract valid until 2009. Boeing is also contracted to support Spain’s carrier fleet, as one of the parties to a 5-year support contract called HISS that began in June 2007.

    CN-235/295 Family Contracts

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    CN-235MP Persuader

    Spain’s Ministers’ Council has authorized a contract is authorized for the transformation of 6 C-235 transports currently serving with the Ejercito del Aire’s Ala 35 based at Madrid-Getalfe to CN-235MP maritime surveillance /SAR versions. The contract would be worth EUR 49 million (currently about $64.5 million), and will be performed by manufacturer EADS-CASA.

    These CN-235MPs will replace 3 Fokker-27 Maritime aircraft currently in service.

    The Ministers’ Council also authorized a EUR 21 million (currently about $27.5 million) contract to acquire one C-295M military transport. The C-295 is a stretched version of the C-235. “This aircraft has the possibility of realizing logistic, tactical transport and medical transport, and, with secondary character, operations of maritime surveillance and of support to operations of search and rescue.”

    The contract will be signed with manufacturer EADS-CASA.

    Chinook Helicopter Upgrades & Spares

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    An Agreement was adopted approving the acquisition of engines, components and accessories for Spain’s HT-17/CH-47 Chinook helicopters. The contracts will be worth EUR 53 million (currently about $70 million), the funding being distributed over 4 years from 2006-2009.

    According to Scramble, Spain’s CH-47Ds are assigned to Army aviation’s BHELTRA V, flying out of Colmenar Viejo north of Madrid.
     
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    Re: spanish military

    Does anyone here have any news re the replacement for the M60A3TTS,currently used by the Marines?
    Also any news on a potential purchase of the F35 for use on the Juan Carlos and Principes De Asturias?
    Have been trawling the internet for an answer before posting,but it seems incredibly difficult to find any Spanish military news,even the official Army website appears out of date!

    Cheers!
     
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    Re: spanish military

    not me but i would like to learn more about the Diminican Republic Military power.
     
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    Re: spanish military

    Very funny numbnuts!
    Spain isnt Diminica,or should that be Dominica!:rofl:Learn to spell,son:rofl:

    Now back to topic;Spain is due to increase the number of military operations,both war fighting,and peace keeping,according to Ms Chacon,the new Defence Minister.
    In order to facilitate this the Army will be increased in size from 126,000,to 135,000,along with new equipment,such as MRAP's etc.
     
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    European armed forces

    Since we don't have a thread for those topics, I decided to open one to collect all items on that one.

    Unfortunately, I'll have to open with another never ending story:
    On the one hand, it's a prestige project, have our own capability to built a heavy transport. Then again, spending that much money for something that late isn't a good thing.
    And, the cargo planes that need to be replaced don't really have a lot of time left. Leasing russian planes all the time can't be a solution either.
    So, what's left? Maybe a bigger european pool of C-17 in a european airlift command.
     
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    New defense contracts have been signed:

    Fortunately, we'll now also get a system for base defense against motar and rocket attacks.

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    And a program for improved battlefield surveillance.

     
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    I wonder how effective that AESA will be around mountainous/hilly terrain and in areas with heavy foliage.

    Why not mount in some type of aerial platform, such as either a helicopter or slow-moving aircraft?
     
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    I guess money is once again a reason here. A vehicle is cheaper to buy and maintain than a helicopter flying around. Though it would be a nice gadget to have a drone flying around with that.

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    Finally seeing a little progress made here. I hope they manage to implement a few new inovations, and maybe even refit older aircraft with new equipment as far as possible.

     
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    http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4128710&c=EUR&s=AIR

    EADS Study Confirms Advanced UAV Costs

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    Published: 8 Jun 2009 14:37


    Paris - A 15-month risk reduction study on the Advanced UAV project has allowed EADS to pin a production price tag of about 90 million to 100 million euros ($125.8 million to $139.7 million) per system, confirming the total 2.8 billion euro budget for 15 systems for France, Germany and Spain, said Nicolas Chamussy, senior vice president for mission air systems.

    "The unit price per system would be about 90 million-100 million euros" depending on the detailed specifications, he told journalists June 8. One system comprises three jet-propelled air vehicles, a ground station and spares.

    The development stage would cost 1.5 billion euros and would run to 2013 or 2014, Chamussy said. EADS would need to land an order for 10 to 15 systems to make economic sense.

    Potentially, France and Germany would each take six systems and Spain three, if the three countries decide to launch the program, which would provide Europe with an autonomous, technological base in next-generation UAVs, EADS executives said.

    EADS delivered the risk reduction study in May to the three governments, which funded the work to the tune of 60 million euros. The company is now waiting for the three governments to decide whether to launch the Advanced UAV program with a development contract.

    Bernhard Gerwert, chief executive of Military Air Systems. said he did not expect a decision on Advanced UAV from the governments for another three or four months.

    Turkey has officially asked to join the Advanced UAV program, which would allow the development costs to be shared among the four countries, Chamussy said. EADS believes there is export potential for a further 10 systems in the world market, he said.
     
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    100 million euros UNIT PRICE?! That's about as expensive as a Raptor. Are they gold plated? I'm not familiar with the program. Why is it so expensive? Are they attempting to produce an air-to-air UCAV? Unlikely, it wouldn't make sense to order only single digits. It sounds like some sort of ultra-long range/endurance full spectrum recon platform just based off the price (we know its sexy) and the numbers (single digits = not for combat or even tactical frontline use; this system will be operated at a strategic scale)
     
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