Espionage involving China

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    Interesting move by the DoJ; let the tic for tac games begin.
     
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    Begin? Where have you been for the last twenty years? It's Industrial espionage.
     
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    Re: World News Thread & Breaking News!!

    FBI Director Eric Holder must be a joke. He says he hopes China will cooperate and turn in those accused of cyber espionage. This is equivalent to when Snowden first came out and Obama tried to spin NSA domestic spying as the same as when stores gather customer information. Yeah, the difference is Kentucky Fried Chicken is not looking to for crimes their customers' are committing in order to arrest them violating the belief in innocent until proven guilty. And why is United Steel Workers a victim of economic espionage? What trade secrets do they possess? It's the very economic secrets Obama says the US does not engage in stealing. You know the spying on Brazil Snowden exposed that angered Rousseff. You probably are going to see China indict US corporate CEOs pretty soon. A lot of bad quality products made in China are because of foreign corporations demanding them to made as cheaply as possible. It'll probably be good to shine a light on that deep dark secret of US corporate practices. You know this is purely political. Obama has to look like he's doing something when everything else he's been trying to do has hit him in the polls. Not only it looks like he doing something on foreign policy but also by naming the United Steel Workers as a victim he's scoring domestic points.
     
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    Re: World News Thread & Breaking News!!

    Eric Holder is a Joke. I agree but for different reasoning.
     
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    But isn't the Federal government that's filing the charges though? I'm not familiar how this work, I'm not a lawyer.:confused:
     
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    I'm talking about the recent DoJ move to indict PLA officers and all the mud slinging it will generate. I also expect Benedict Snowden to make an entrance at a strategic moment to further embarrass the US government.
     
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    The DOJ is pressing because,
    1) the individuals are Military Hackers not civilians.
    2) the Agencies they were operating on behalf of are State owned.
    3) Alcoa, Us steel and Westinghouse are US military suppliers and there products may contain sensitive materials


    finally my statement is that his is not a Isolated incident and there has been a spy war going back and forth across the Pacific for decades, The personal Tablet is just the new Cloak and dagger. The PRC will try and brush it off as American lies an load up on the Snowden Affair. Like Putin did When Snowden called in on a Russian TV show with a loaded Question to try and pin the new Czar only to be Brushed off in a Propaganda Coup.
    The Classic rule of thumb when caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Denies, Denies and then Counter Accusation
     
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    Yeah, and the Americans are really good at it, just ask Germany, Brazil, Mexico, etc.

    German fury as US deny Merkel phone hacking | Mail Online
    NSA Hacked Email Account of Mexican President - Spiegel
    The NSA Has Hacked Mexican and Brazilian Government Email For Years - gizmodo.com
    NSA accused of spying on Brazilian oil company Petrobras - theguardian.com

    The point is, why cry about it when everyone does it. You don't see the Chinese govt issuing arrest warrants on the NSA, do you? Btw, aside from the obvious hypocrisy, how will the US govt arrest these PLA officers? Is it going to be like what the IRS do with some of the swiss bankers when they travel overseas? It seems more like a dog and pony show for public consumption.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point.
    Every nation Spy's on others Even allies.
     

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