Effectiveness of Wheeled ATGMs carriers

Vanguard1688

Junior Member
How effective are truck mounted ATGMs like the Beijing Jeep or Iveco mounted with a HJ-8E which cannot be fired on the move or the the 4x4 WZ-551 mounted with HJ-9s which could be fired on the move. Under what circumstances are they used in modern warfare?
 

utelore

Junior Member
VIP Professional
they are used against everything from armour to inf in buildings or bunkers. only drawback is the big shoot me cloud seen on thermals....cheers ute.
 

rommel

Bow Seat
VIP Professional
the effective doesn't change that is on Wheeled carriers or tracked carriers, but instead, that's is limit of the carrier taht change and dramatically. On the tracked carriers, that can really go anywhere, you don't have a risk to stay blocked in soft mud or sand, well, at least, as not easily as a wheeled, the wheeled vehicule also got the disadvantage to got tires. Tires are very vulnerable to damage from gunfire, battlefield debris, and sharp rocks. In the 30 January 1991 battle for Khafji, the first coalition attack was stopped when Iraqi small arms fire flattened the tires of the Saudi wheeled armor. Four weeks later, the Marine assault on Kuwait Airport was also brought to a halt when the tires of several LAV-25s were shredded as a result of running over artillery fragments.More recently, the Stryker company (13 or 14 Vehicules) that participated in Millennium Challenge 2002 had to replace 13 tires during the 96-hour NTC rotation! How many more tires would have required replacement if the OPFOR had been shooting bullets instead of MILES lasers? "Run-flat" tires are not a solution - if you have to limp into a fight, you might not be able to crawl out! Tracks don't have to be changed after every battle.
Also, wheeled vehicles require the use of snow chains in order to operate effectively in snow. This is another group of items for which stowage space is required, and the time needed for installation and removal of snow chains can potentially slow the pace of winter operations.Tracked vehicles can easily climb over automobiles and other obstacles that cannot be surmounted by wheeled armor. This capability is very useful in any scenario, and its lack can result in mission failure.The only advantage of a wheeled vehicule is the maintenance, more easy and less costy.
 
Also, tank threads tend to wear out a lot. You'd have to replace the threads every few hundred miles. Not only is it a hassle, but also a waste of money to have to replace the threads. Some tanks, like the T-72, can operate on roads without their threads, using just its wheels.
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
just make heavy rubber tires that are covered by armkor plates and they'll be easier to protect. for more mobile, light attack units such as the pla's rapid reaction forces, a wheeled vihicle is perfect. in a more difficult terrain with armor troops, tracks are better. thats not neccaserily tanks. infantry fighting vehicles and other have tracks, and will be the armor of the future.
 
MIGleader said:
just make heavy rubber tires that are covered by armkor plates and they'll be easier to protect. for more mobile, light attack units such as the pla's rapid reaction forces, a wheeled vihicle is perfect. in a more difficult terrain with armor troops, tracks are better. thats not neccaserily tanks. infantry fighting vehicles and other have tracks, and will be the armor of the future.

I think tanks will be used in the future. Remember, tanks don't have to have threads. You can have wheeled tanks. IFVs just don't have the firepower to replace tanks.
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
tanks will have their uses in ther future. but like the battle ship, the big guns and armor will eventually be obsolete.
 
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