ECA secures funds for NATO aggressor aircraft purchase

navyreco

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NATO's ability to conduct multi-national combat training could be transformed if a 24-aircraft system being proposed by a Dutch-based company takes off.

The integrated opposing force (IOPFOR) concept now being promoted by ECA Program would see a new fleet of privately-owned and operated lightweight fighters provide an aggressor training service for Alliance nations.

Platform candidates include the Chengdu J-10, RSK MiG-35 and Saab Gripen, with ECA chief executive and IOPFOR manager Melville ten Cate expecting to announce a selection in mid-May.

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Would China really sell one of their most advanced fighter currently used by PLAN to NATO ?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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When the Usaf operated it's constent peg program that flew Mig models too train fighter pilots for engaging "Dissimilar air combat training" IE dogfights where in the two aircraft differ in power weight maneuverability and the like. They procured there Migs from Egypt, Israel ( former Iraqi, and Syrian), and even yes China. The British procured a number Russian T80 tanks by creating a special trading company that claimed the tanks were supposed too be going too Morocco, by the Time the Russians realized who they buyers really where they were already under the Union Jack.
In other words if china says no there are still other methods of procurement.
 

Kurt

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To me the question is, how do you get spares for these machines? Must be very expensive.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
The Saab would be easy it's already made by a member of the EU
The Mig and J10 would depend on political relation ships If Russia or China or even both close them selves off then thing get more interesting Once more I have too refer back too constant peg, Where in Due too The relations too Russia Spar parts were an issue, too correct such They were buying up crashed and Un-flyable Migs as well as spar parts form nations that were leaving there Mig fleets they also bought parts form China and when they had too they sent parts too American contractors like, GE who would conduct reverse engineering programs and then manufacture replacement parts and then conduct engine rebuilds all on the hush hush.
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

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your right my bad but it is in the EU, I sometimes have a habit of confusing one for the other. But still that gives Nato as a Whole a close Inroad for spare parts on Saab's
 

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Would China really sell one of their most advanced fighter currently used by PLAN to NATO ?

Now if they asked for a J-15 or J-11B then I doubt China would sell it. But a J-10A is hardly something to be fretting over, especially now. The J-10A is no longer a "top end" fighter of the PLAAF and I'm sure that it is something that China knows is bound to be global since it's slated for export. Even then China could simply degrade it if they wanted it.
 

Red___Sword

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I'd say America would not sell P-51 to Germany at 1944, but would more than happy to do so at 1950's.

Besides the obvious "swap of team", the development and deployment progress of next gen fighter, determines the previous gen's best fighter's export policy.

So I believe J-10 would be exported to America (or its buddy), eventually.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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lets clarify something here this is not for actual combat use this is an
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a Unit assembled not for actual combat but too train friendly's against something they do not normally work with Line A OPFOR unit they will be used too evaluate the readiness of they stick jockys as they give them a top gun thrill ride burning jet fuel in the turn and burn they get oh so rarely. they would be a red Airforce too the Regular's blue Air. All they are looking for is too assemble a handful of squadrons too train against this is not full deployment.
Second they are only looking for one platform.
now they could have stated any number of fighters for there list but they chose the Mig, The j10 and The SAAB Grippen, These were chosen because mostly because of limited Alliance use.
Currently no members use the J10 or Mig29, three do however operate the Grippen, the Czech Air Force, the Hungarian Air Force and the Empire Test Pilots' School of the UK use Grippens. As well as maneuverability of the platforms.
 
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