"Drop the filtering software Now or else.." by US's Ron Kirk

antimatter

Banned Idiot
or else it will taken to WTO according to Ron Kirk, the same guy who's taking CHina on the export of raw material issue.
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Top US trade officials said Wednesday they have written to the Chinese government urging it to drop a new rule requiring all computers to be fitted with Internet filtering software.

Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and US Trade Representative Ron Kirk said China may be violating its World Trade Organization obligations by requiring all computers sold in the country from July 1 to carry the "Green Dam" program.

"China is putting companies in an untenable position by requiring them, with virtually no public notice, to pre-install software that appears to have broad-based censorship implications and network security issues," Locke said.

Locke and Kirk sent letters to their counterparts at China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology and the Ministry of Commerce, they said in a joint statement.

Beijing says the Chinese-made Green Dam software will filter out pornography, ensuring that more young people can use the Internet in the nation with the world's largest online population.

But trade and rights groups fear that Green Dam is another attempt by China to control access to the Internet and filter out politically sensitive topics and opposing views.

"Protecting children from inappropriate content is a legitimate objective, but this is an inappropriate means and is likely to have a broader scope," Kirk said.

"Mandating technically flawed Green Dam software and denying manufacturers and consumers freedom to select filtering software is an unnecessary and unjustified means to achieve that objective, and poses a serious barrier to trade," Kirk said.

US embassy officials already met Chinese authorities last week to voice "concern" about the software, without publicly demanding that Beijing drop the rule.

But Chinese state media said Tuesday that Beijing would not back away from the new rule
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
I am very against this new policy. It is potentially intrusive and can be used against political dissension, disagreement with government policy, clamp down on bloggers either because you talk about democracy or post the latest J-10 fighter leak.
 

antimatter

Banned Idiot
I am very against this new policy. It is potentially intrusive and can be used against political dissension, disagreement with government policy, clamp down on bloggers either because you talk about democracy or post the latest J-10 fighter leak.

On the flipside average western teenagers spend too much time watching porn and they are not good at science, programming, and engineering.

WHy's US has to resort to stealing others brain-power to enhance itself. If it has to rely strictly on its own typical preppies. It would be a fail nation.
 

RedMercury

Junior Member
Laugh, abusing the WTO like this will just make it even more obviously a political tool than it already is. "free trade" was and always will be just a political tool of convenience, I hope Chinese people open their eyes to this.
 

yehe

Junior Member
LOL, unless the software is preinstalled on BIOS hardware, you can simply choose not to install or remove it, no big deal.

But taking it to the WTO is like a big joke, I really dont se how they can stop it, rare resource espeially, high tech is also a kind of rare resource, but I dont see every country sharing it unrestricted with other? Maybe China should go to the WTO aswell for the export restriction the EU and US have over china when it comes to high tech stuff? Which undoubtly give thier own industries a unfair edge over others as well. Ridiculous

Besides, whats OPECS for?
 
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Engineer

Major
I am very against this new policy. It is potentially intrusive and can be used against political dissension, disagreement with government policy, clamp down on bloggers either because you talk about democracy or post the latest J-10 fighter leak.

Oh I agree. There are much better ways at P.R., and they should really learn from America in how to do it properly. Filtering information is an ineffective and outdated method.

That being said, it is absurd for the US to even think of taking it to the WTO. What's next? China violates WTO rules because CCP has a monopoly in power? :roll:
 

Autumn Child

Junior Member
actually i don't know what the fuss is about google. I read google news every morning (and a minute ago) and never once was it unaccessable (from my shanghai apartment). I don't really use google.cn....so i can't comment on that.

Oh...and porn is everywhere...its sold in dvd shops, circulated in p2p platform and passed among friends.
 
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T-U-P

The Punisher
Staff member
Super Moderator
Registered Member
i know there are a lot of random porn spammers on chinese forums. Although those posts are generally ignored and deleted, it's quite ridiculous to see the amount of spam the chinese forums get. Popeye would go crazy and pull his hair out if those chinese porn spamming bots invade SDF
 
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