Defender of the Mount Delta-----PLA paratroopers

Red Guard

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(even though 15th airborne army is under the command of high HQ of air force, but since it's pretty much fighting on the ground, so i post it here)

".....after the battle of mount delta, the world recongized there is a mount delta in korea and there is a 15th army on mouth delta!"
Mount Delta is one of the most famous battle that was fought in korean war. countless chinese volunteer soldiers had kept their frontline on the mountain not only under the heavy fire of "UN force", also with the limited food and mostly, water.
One of the famous chinese hero soldiers, Huang Jiguan, who blocked the enemy machine gun position with his own chest, came from this herotic unit. After they came back from korea. It was selected from so many other hero units to form the first and the only paratroop unit.
they are, today's 15th army.
i will start with a couple new personal equipment, as a compare to my last TZ's gear thread, and as a militria fan, i will explain some of the new equipment. then i will go along with some of the training pics.



the new compass is first seen with the paras, type 97(here may show it's 98). army is still issued with type 62
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the new binocular of type 97 is also seen here.
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now, do we have NVGs :D?????
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from the left up corner to the right down corner
first row(left to right):
type 97 compass with shell; type 97 binocular with shell; paratrooper's knife(notice the blue para wing); type 95's baynoet
second row: new paratrooper's helmet with urban camo cover; paratrooper's canteen(the outside is the case which is used as "lunch box"); new paratrooper's shovel; 4 magz for 95 and type 95 assault rifle (standard PLA loading, 4 mags in punch and 1 on rifle, some bullets will be put in bags too, more for paratroopers will be introduced later)
third row: parachute rope; weir cutter???; case??; GPS; NVG; and some unidentified equipment.
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i will put on a detailed new paratrooper's combat vest followed.
your reply is my power to continue.
 

rommel

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Hum... This time equipment look good, but I'm curious to know what PLA combat vest look like. Still, for the compass, can you give us a picture of the compass but open. And I want to know, are they self-illuminating compass ?? Do they have a mirror and a cord for accuracy ??? Otherwise, everything look great (but I still prefered my canandian gear :D )
 

Red Guard

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the only canadian i perfer is the vest and the new uniform. i will open another thread about chinese compass later on. after all this is what i am good at. i am going to give the detail picture about the new 02 paratrooper combat vest in about.....10 minutes.
okay, paratrooper's gear continued. this one will be focused on the new vest
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this is the most advanced combat vest of the army. i myself consider it is much better than the old 95 vest. it has 4 mag punch on the front, a S belt with the airborne logo on buckle. the gas mask's bag is tied on the right leg. one of the shinning point is the combine of stuff pack with the mag punch. since you could only carry 4+1 mags on the vest the pack could also hold another 3 mags which got a total of 8 mags, that's about 240 bullets for one trooper. and you could also put some bullets in the pack and meal pack in it too. this pack is tied around the hip. and a 45L backpack could also be worn on the shoulder. it's a great gear and i am expecting to get one next summer while i go back.

more pic will be added on later on.
 
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rommel

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Hum... This vest look cool, still, I don't know why, but the magazine seem to be very long... Well, don't care very much, this thing seem to be very decent, I'm curious to know are you confortable with it. I loves my CADPAT vest, it only have one bad thing is that the bayonnet is well, look on the image, if it can be show...
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at the center, in your sternum...
 

Red Guard

Junior Member
rommel said:
Hum... This time equipment look good, but I'm curious to know what PLA combat vest look like. Still, for the compass, can you give us a picture of the compass but open. And I want to know, are they self-illuminating compass ?? Do they have a mirror and a cord for accuracy ??? Otherwise, everything look great (but I still prefered my canandian gear :D )
since my friend especially asked, please don't mind me double posting.
now type 97 compass is still like a piece of very new equipment. i haven't seen the real thing yet. so i could only show you the pic i found on the net. it's pretty expensive it costs about 50 canadian bucks for one. while the old type 62 (brand new) cost about less than 20 bucks.
type 62 was one of the compass used longest during 50 years of PLA history. i am not really a compass fan, so i don't really know anything about it. i think it's a mix of many other soviet, german, czech compasses. type 62 is a great compass. it is still widly used in the service, waiting to be replaced by the new 97. actually from type 62 to 97, there was a type 80. it uses a lot of plastic on it, it's very light, but i think it had some problems and it was out of the service while it was being issued. oh i just realized. type 62 was a copy of...the german compass i forgot, it has an old chinese version called "zhong zheng" type compass. zhong zheng is the name of Jiang jie shi. it was issued to the german standard divisions during sino japanese war.

about the binocular, the binocular PLA uses now is called type 62 binocular, it's a copy of a soviet scope, and soviet copied from german 'zeuss".



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rommel you forgot i am canadian too? i know this vest pretty well, the bayonet fit in the center is pretty funny.
as i said before, in PLA, gears don't fit to people, people fit to gears.
but i think this vest is the most comfortable over all the other type 95, type 91 and the 3/4 mag ammo chest punch
 
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rommel

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oh sorry, I just forget that you were canadian... Of which region ?? Those pictures indicates a lot, yes it's a copy of the german compass, you have a cord and a mirror, that's very because it make the using of it much more accurate. But this compass don't seem to be self-illuminating, only phosphorescent. Our (CF) compass is self-illuminous because there is a tritium mix in the compass that emit light (well, more radiation) and we can use it in the dark...
 

Red Guard

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i am from toronto, i live in hamilton ontario now, because i go to mcmaster university.
i didn't understand what you meant by self-illuminating, my bad english....
and no, actually type 62 is this "self-illuminating" compass, it has tritium on both the pointer and the ...the...plate....i don't know the english name for it... and since it's bad for human body, they changed it to the chemical thing, that keeps energy within and release it while dark, on type 97 compass now.
 

rommel

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Red Guard said:
i am from toronto, i live in hamilton ontario now, because i go to mcmaster university.
i didn't understand what you meant by self-illuminating, my bad english....
and no, actually type 62 is this "self-illuminating" compass, it has tritium on both the pointer and the ...the...plate....i don't know the english name for it... and since it's bad for human body, they changed it to the chemical thing, that keeps energy within and release it while dark, on type 97 compass now.

self-illuminating mean that you don't need a external source of light because it release light , well it's a radioactive compound (tritium)... so it naturally emit radiation under the form of light, before, compass were using radium, but we change to tritium that is much more safer...

when you accumulate and release in the dark, we called that phosphorescent.

My english could be worst than your since I'm french-canadian and I live in Montréal, Quebec, going to the Université de Montréal
 

darth sidious

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Nice to see there are other canadians around but red guard I think you made a mistake zhong zheng is the name of Chin ka shek but that name was given to the rifle the chinese army use the Masueer Stander 1924 almost exact copy of the K98K. a good rifle it cause some trouble to the Americans in Korea
 
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Red Guard

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hehehe. well talking about chinese weaponary, i might be a bit better than you are. you see lots of stuff were named zhong zheng back then. as jiang jie shi was "the one and the only". comparing to it, nothing was named chairman mao..... the rifle was named zhong zheng, yes, and the compass was named zhong zheng as well, two kind, one is zhong zheng-1 compass and another one was zhong zheng-2. there were limited numbers of the compasses in china, and i happened to see "one" in 04 while i was back, then i found out it was faked from a 62 compass. those are two things i know from china republic before 49 named as zhong zheng. i think there are other stuff as well just not as famous.
 
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