Cyber Warfare

NikeX said:

Is it?



Talk is cheap

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Exactly! That's why it's easier just to say it's doing what the hype is saying than in reality. The Iranian program rolls on meaning Stuxnet was a big watse of money or a lie in the first place. Who are they ones that identified Stuxnet? Internet security firms who wouldn't be in business if there weren't any "threats."

AssassinsMace said:

Exactly! That's why it's easier just to say it's doing what the hype is saying than in reality. The Iranian program rolls on meaning Stuxnet was a big watse of money or a lie in the first place. Who are they ones that identified Stuxnet? Internet security firms who wouldn't be in business if there weren't any "threats."

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What measuring stick are you using to claim that the Iranian program "rolls on"? By the Iranian's own admissions they admit to setbacks. Can you tell us what these set backs are and why they are occurring?

If the Iranians were "rolling on" as you claim then where is the measure of their success? In otherwords where is this atomic device they are working 24/7 to create and explode? An atomic test is the true measure of the health of the Iranian program and to date there is none.

NikeX said:

What measuring stick are you using to claim that the Iranian program "rolls on"? By the Iranian's own admissions they admit to setbacks. Can you tell us what these set backs are and why they are occurring?

If the Iranians were "rolling on" as you claim then where is the measure of their success? In otherwords where is this atomic device they are working 24/7 to create and explode? An atomic test is the true measure of the health of the Iranian program and to date there is none.

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The news media... The same that hyped up Stuxnet in the first place. The same media that turned Jessica Lynch into Rambo.

AssassinsMace said:

The news media... The same that hyped up Stuxnet in the first place.

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Then you need to dig deeper than these consumer level news outlets if you want to get the full picture. Still the proof of the pudding is in the eating and to date the Iranians have not boasted of or exploded an atomic weapon. That fact alone speaks volumes

Yeah and the so-called experts said China was going to invade Taiwan while the US was preoccupied with Iraq and Afghanistan. All the information about Stuxnet came from the media and these internet security firms. No one behind Stuxnet has come out. So where are you going to dig in deeper? You're word ain't more credible or all the Iranians have to is put a smoke screen to stop Stuxnet.

Unless you have something new to add to the thread you started I will move to the sidelines and observe. Cheers

You mean like a smoke screen is your answer to everything?

NikeX said:

What measuring stick are you using to claim that the Iranian program "rolls on"? By the Iranian's own admissions they admit to setbacks. Can you tell us what these set backs are and why they are occurring?

If the Iranians were "rolling on" as you claim then where is the measure of their success? In otherwords where is this atomic device they are working 24/7 to create and explode? An atomic test is the true measure of the health of the Iranian program and to date there is none.

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The US government acknowledged that Iran is not building a nuclear bomb. They said this development was stopped in 2003. So it is no wonder there is no Iranian bomb. But there is a nuclear armed rogue state in the neighborhood: Israel. See the article I got from the Washington Post and put as #194 in Persian Gulf and Middle East News and Views.

Imagine an Al-Qaeda like terrorist network with ranks of computer programmers instead of suicide bombers.

delft said:

The US government acknowledged that Iran is not building a nuclear bomb. They said this development was stopped in 2003. So it is no wonder there is no Iranian bomb. But there is a nuclear armed rogue state in the neighborhood: Israel. See the article I got from the Washington Post and put as #194 in Persian Gulf and Middle East News and Views.

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If that statement is true then explain why the Iranians are refusing to submit to inspections of their facilities suspected of nuclear bomb making by the IAEA, an International Group tasked with monitoring nations involved in nuclear research.

"....In November 2011, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Board of Governors rebuked Iran following an IAEA report detailing how Iran had undertaken research and experiments geared to developing a nuclear weapons capability.For the first time, the IAEA report outlines, in depth, the country’s detonator development, the multiple-point initiation of high explosives, and experiments involving nuclear payload integration into a missile delivery vehicle. Iran rejected the details of the report and accused the IAEA of pro-Western bias and threatened to reduce its cooperation with the IAEA."

There is no bomb because covert efforts have interfered with Iran's efforts to complete a bomb.

The IAEA just filed it's report on Iran and their attempts to develop a nuclear weapon. The findings show that Iran continues to enrich uranium in violation of Security Council resolutions, and it continues to obstruct the IAEA investigation expressly mandated by those resolutions.

So who do you chose to believe, the Washington Post newspaper or the IAEA 14-page report?

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