CV-16 Liaoning Thread II ...News, Views and operations

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    I would say no because Lunar New Year is a very important holiday for Chinese. People are expected to meet with families
     
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    For now I think the PLAN and USN will continue to give each other room for shows of force, shadowing but not challenging or showing up each other during such activities. Though confrontation beyond shadowing is likely when it comes to surveillance operations probably depending on technical and political implications on a case-by-case basis.
     
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    That snippet came from this source video from CCTV 13. The video contains previously unseen footage of Liaoning's training including a few segments of weapons handling at night.

    YJ-83K mounted to J-15s begins to be shown at 14:50.

    Double PL-12 firing shown at 16:00 exact.

    Interesting footage of a J-15 mockup shown at 23:30.

    A few frames of the hangar containing a Z-18 is shown at 24:03.

    Nighttime/dusk handling of ordnance begins showing at 24:23.

    Footage of a control room, possibly CIC, shown at 26:26.
     
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    great video jobjed.. too bad I don't speak Chinese it would have been better.

    One thing I saw astounded me was using a weapons loader. I can't see what weapon they were loading so I could guess the weight. the reason I mention this is that the USN loads weapons weighing 1000lb(453kg) or less are loaded by hand.. except certain missiles, mines and torpedoes. Yes by hand. No foolin'..see below...

    ..Ahem.. aboard ship the USN still humps bombs..by hand..

    popeye was an Aviation Ordnancemen for 11 of my 20 service with the US Navy.

    We be humpin' bombs..

    these pix are a bit dated but still hold true.

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    ..see that shipmate on the right with his grille about to explode? He's on the business end of a "hernia bar"... "we be humpin' bombs"
    Over the years the USN Aviation ordanancemen have proven that loading weapons by hand is faster than using a weapons loader. This was proven aboard USS John F Kennedy during their deployment in 1971-'72 when the "pre-load concept" was tested.:confused: Using weapons loaders and pre-loaded bomb racks proved to be a real pain. I was there..I know. But of course the Chinese can use what-ever method they choose to load weapons. What-ever works!
     
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    I see either early morning or dusk activity on deck...not "night ops".

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    If I'm a betting man, I would wager the next time she goes out to sea she will conduct night operations and if we're lucky we get to see the pics ... perhaps even a video or 2 then she will be fully armed and operational as fair as I'm concern
     
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    AOs are one of the hardest working folks around. Most folks think they just secure the ordnance and then go BBQ and what not. AOs job is 100x more than that.

    There is a team of folks who gets the job done and everyone must work in concert or people die. They need to know exactly what their specific role is when attaching the ordnance. A person needs to make sure the whole operation goes smoothly using known procedures. They must also know the specific tools and be familiar with them for each specific load out or the mission requirements. They must also properly handle the transport of munitions from stowage to the deck and to the aircraft and to make sure each ordnance is configured propery.

    Lighter munitions like sidewinders, amraams and SDBs are loaded by hand because it is easier to mount them to the wing pylons, rails etc and for the brackets to latch.
     
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