CV-16 Liaoning Thread II ...News, Views and operations

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    As usual, like the US ... it's always the same as with island reclamation: If Japan does it, it's coastal protection if China does it, its military expansion.
    If a US plane scrambles another one it is highly professional, if others do it, its a dangerously close encounter.
     
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    now noticed the tweet which I think also contains the picture Deino posted in the previous page:
    https://twitter.com/HenriKenhmann/status/1138456303959969798
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    Le porte-avions chinois "Liaoning" - escorté par 2 destroyers Type 051C et Type 052D, 2 frégates Type 054A ainsi qu'un pétrolier ravitailleur Type 901 - a franchi la 1ère chaîne d'îles ce mardi 11 Juin tôt dans la matinée. La dernière manœuvre de ce genre remonte en Avril 2018.
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    The Chinese aircraft carrier "Liaoning" - escorted by 2 destroyers Type 051C and Type 052D, 2 frigates Type 054A and a tanker Type 901 - crossed the 1st chain of islands this Tuesday 11 June early in the morning. The last maneuver of this kind dates back to April 2018.
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    Will this be an exercise in the Pacific or just taking a scenic route to Sanya?
     
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    23 years ago during Taiwan strait crisis USS Nimitz and USS Independence humiliated China in front of the world

    Today China has 2 carriers of its own and I feel within 10 years they will be able to park 2 x carrier close to US shoreline

    the naval turn around of China is something that will be studied for years to come

    I am glad I have followed its course
     
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    Judging by the escort of large type 903 supply vessel my guess this is the first foray into western pacific
    If it goes to Sanya they can use the much smaller supply ships
     
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    Second, the first was exercise in 2016 through the same straight.
     
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    Yeah but then it turn south to Hainan. It is not passing of the straits that is important It is where they go next? But this time around who knows ?
    If it goes eastward toward West pacific then it is milestone Sofar Liaoning only sail within the first island chain. About time they venture more deeper in eastward direction
     
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    Yes I agree

    That tanker is a good indicator

    No doubt satellite images will surface soon showing its route
     
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    It turned south only after conducted exercise in the west pacific. So as I said PLAN has done so in 2016, and won't be a surprise to do so again.
    From BBC 25 December 2016
    China's first aircraft carrier in Western Pacific drill
    It quoted PLAN as saying
     
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    Nope still within the second island chain not the wide open west pacific ocean which most likely the venue of the recent exercise I am holding my breath now
    Last time around they are only dipping their toe in west pacific
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...ship-liaoning-sails-through-miyako-strait-way

    Chinese warship the Liaoning sails through Miyako Strait on way to Pacific Ocean for drills
    • Fuel supply ship and other naval vessels seen accompanying the aircraft carrier
    • Analysts expect navy to carry out exercises ‘to improve its fighting power and operations in areas it is not familiar with’
    Kristin Huang
    Lee Jeong-ho

    During its return voyage – which took place when the self-ruled island’s President Tsai Ing-wen was visiting allies in Latin America – the Liaoning sailed through the Taiwan Strait, completing a circle around the island and prompting the Taiwanese military to scramble jets and send navy ships to “surveil and control” its passage back to Qingdao.


    Analysts said the latest Chinese voyage through the Miyako Strait was part of training to improve combat readiness.

    Collin Koh, a research fellow at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, said the strait was “one of the quickest routes into the open western Pacific Ocean, where the PLA is expected to wage combat operations – especially in the Philippine Sea – in the event of a counter-intervention against American forces deployed from Guam in particular”.

    “Such manoeuvres are aimed at familiarising the PLA Navy units with the operating environment as part of peacetime combat preparedness,” he said.

    Song Zhongping, a former member of the People’s Liberation Army’s Second Artillery Corps, said it was not unusual for the Liaoning to carry out training in the western Pacific Ocean.

    “Training cannot be done only at home. They need to strengthen combat abilities and carry out missions further afield – that’s crucial for an aircraft carrier,” he said. “Training is needed to improve its fighting power and operations in areas it is not familiar with.”
    The training was expected to last for about two weeks, according to Zhou Chenming, a military expert in Beijing.

    Former Pentagon chief says US is in danger of losing arms technology race to Beijing
    The Chinese aircraft carrier strike group could also be seeking to gain further operational experience, according to Ryo Hinata-Yamaguchi, a visiting professor at Pusan National University in South Korea.

    “It could be holding some kind of naval exercises in or near the Pacific Ocean while also conducting their own freedom of navigation operations to test Japan and the US’ strategic and tactical reactions,” Ryo said.

    “China’s objective is to achieve its anti-access and area denial strategy in the first and second island chains to gain access to the Pacific Ocean while also challenging the US’ air and naval supremacy in the Indo-Pacific – and also Japan’s growing air and naval capabilities,” he said.
     
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