Chinese UAV/UCAV development

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SinoSoldier

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plawolf said:
Ugh, PM is giving me grief. If you could send me the link, that would be a big help. Thanks!
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Yeah it's giving me trouble as well.

I'll just post it (if mods wish to remove it then fine):

0:14: first BA-7 missile hits the lead vehicle
3:47: 2nd BA-7 hits the occupants of the 2nd vehicle
10:41: 3rd BA-7 delivers the coup de grace to the 2nd vehicle

BTW I'm not sure how ForeignPolicy managed to ID the missile as a BA-7, since Saudi CH-4 drones can carry bombs as well.

Here's a more compressed video and with sound of the control room:
 
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AssassinsMace

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At the :22 second mark on the second video you see from the top left of the screen what looks like a missile and vapor trail drop down and exit the screen before the bottom left corner. You see it a second later heading across towards the people and then its shadow on the ground shoots across and explosion.
 
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AssassinsMace said:
At the :22 second mark on the second video you see from the top left of the screen what looks like a missile and vapor trail drop down and exit the screen before the bottom left corner. You see it a second later heading across towards the people and then its shadow on the ground shoots across and explosion.
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I'm not so sure the first 2 objects are really what you said they are. They could just be debris falling back to the ground. The dark shadow is really the missile itself. You can see a dark shadow again when the second car got hit.
 
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taxiya

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I'm aware it's a GEV but looking at that picture somehow I immediately thought of 2 things,
1) It's flying towards inland rather than towards the sea. (not sure why I thought of that).
2) Is it possible to somehow deduce the height it is flying at based on that picture.

Of course a couple of hundred km range isn't practical as a delivery vehicle for a land attack payload except for hitting the shore targets.

A wild guess, assume the delivery GEV releases the torpedo, torpedo flies into the water towards target. Delivery GEV continues flying in a circular loop (likely can't fly slower than the torpedo can swim) to delay itself and let torpedo hit target ahead of it. The GEV follows behind one or two minutes later to take and send back damage assessment pictures. After sending back pictures, GEV kamikazes into target. If GEV hits, good. Else wasting some defence missiles or CIWS bullets and complicating matters for the target is better than letting a possibly 1ton of remaining structure sink into the water.

But if torpedo misses then GEV would be warning target that it is under attack. If torpedo misses and GEV was designed to just sink into the water out of sight, target may not know it is under attack and 2nd or 3rd torpedoes would still have the element of surprise.
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Didn't check my notification until today.

Here is what I think.
  1. It is flying over land, to be precisely, from my observation it is some kind of swamp, mash land near water, lake or sea. I have no idea which direction, towards or away. But that is not a big issue.
  2. It is possible to deduce if we know the length of the weapon, the distance from the photographer to the GEV and the height of the camera position. On that picture, draw a line vertically reaching the ground, then we have the ratio of length vs. altitude. The height of the camera position and the distance are needed to decide the touch point (therefor the flying altitude) on the ground. Without these two parameters, it is difficult. But give a rough guess, the ratio is 1/1.6, so if the GEV is 4 meters (probably shorter), the altitude is at less than 7 meters, 4/7= 1/1.75.
As of the wild guess, I see the guess as very logical. I would do all of those if I were the designer.
 
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Hendrik_2000

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From Henry K blog
The CH-101 Technology Demonstrator successfully completed its first test flight on May 6 after undergoing modifications.

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H-16 Tomahawk from HARWAR is capable of carrying a series of payload modules including 38mm teargas grenade launcher.
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The heavy version of HARWAR H-16 (12 rotors ) displayed at the exhibition is equipped with fire extinguisher bombs.
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WestRiver said:
H-16 Tomahawk from HARWAR is capable of carrying a series of payload modules including 38mm teargas grenade launcher.
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That is really cool! and very terrifying. It has a terminator feel to it. Instead of tear gas canisters, imagine it firing 35 mm or 40 mm HE grenades and in a swarm ambushing a convoy or attacking an insurgent base, then disappearing into the hills moments after. With current technology this can be all coordinated from a tablet or laptop.
 
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