Chinese UAV/UCAV development

Hendrik_2000 · Dec 7, 2017

Like I said before every Zhang, Wang, Lie are now working on UAV another 3 new entrant in this crowded field
Chinese Air Force - three super UAV off the assembly line in Taixing

Jeff Head · Dec 9, 2017

ougoah said:
Do you know how this statement is usually interpreted? I get that it makes no grammatical sense but it does tend to suggest that China arms bad guys with drones. Those bad guys being Middle Easterners. If you're going to be posting stuff on a public forum, it's your responsibility to be exact with language or apologise for misunderstandings created by your own poor choice of words. It doesn't matter if one or two other members get your stupid jokes. There are many other readers around. Soon enough some dumbasses will be going around the internet saying that China arms ISIS with drones. False news repeated enough becomes believable. Just like some idiots think all Chinese eat dogs for lunch and then munch on foetuses for dessert. If you can't talk properly, you should shut up.

Ougoah, you neeed to let it go.

Forbin qualified his stament later when asked directly (and by someone who was not insulting him as you are doing and he indicated that the bad guys he meant were ISIS.

So, let it go and considered yourself warned for the insulting posts.

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Daniel707 · Dec 17, 2017

Tengeon Tech unveiled Cargo Drone project featuring 42m Wingspan, 8 engines, can carry more than 20 tonnes payload, and Stay in the air up to 24 hours.

Not just only a concept, It's a Project with scheduled first flight in 2020.

Credit to @Dafengcao

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jobjed · Dec 17, 2017

Daniel707 said:
Tengeon Tech unveiled Cargo Drone project featuring 42m Wingspan, 8 engines, can carry more than 20 tonnes payload, and Stay in the air up to 24 hours.

Not just only a concept, It's a Project with scheduled first flight in 2020.

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Eight engines for 20 tonnes of payload... hmm... must be pretty small engines. A high-bypass version of the AI-222 could be a promising candidate with the current variants' providing 2.6t of thrust without afterburner. An upgraded version of the old AI-25 could also be considered.

Turbofan transports around the world have a payload-to-MTOW ratio of ~0.3 and a TWR of ~0.25 so a payload of 20t would imply an MTOW of ~66.7t which would need a total thrust of ~16.7t which divides up to ~2.1t per engine, corresponding nicely to the thrust figures of the AI-25 and AI-222.

Hendrik_2000 · Dec 17, 2017

Is this a mockup ? via clarkgap

This is basically an unmanned stratolaunch system:

Tengeon Tech's system:

Wingspan - 42 meter
Playload (with 8 turbofan engines) - 20 ton
Loiter time - 24 hours
The modularity turbofan engines system - can change the numbers and models of engine base on requirement

Others two UAV from Tengoen Tech
TA-001

Ceiling - 7500 m
Maximium speed - 240 km/h
Cruising speed - 150-200 km/h
Range - 3800 km
Loiter time - 24 h (Scout) - 18 h (Attack)
Control range - 280 km (Horizon) - 3000+ km (Satellite)
Wingspan - 14.7 m
Length - 7.8 m
Height - 2.7 m
Maximium takeoff weight - 1200 kg
Playload - 180 kg (Internal) - 120 kg (External)

by78 · Dec 17, 2017

As previously seen here, here, here, and here, Tengoen is a company out of Sichuan and first displayed its drones at the China-ASEAN expo back in September 2017.

Tengoen TB001

Operational ceiling: 8000m
Max speed: 280km/hour
Cruising speed: 160-220km/hour
Max range: 7500km
Endurance: 45 hours (surveillance), 25 hours (surveillance and strike)
Remote control range: 280km (line-of-sight), 3000km+ (satellite)
Wingspan: 20m
Length: 10.5m
Height: 3.3m
Max takeoff weight: 2800kg
Useful load: 200kg (internal), 780kg (external)

First flight and weapons integration tests have already taken place:

by78 · Dec 17, 2017

Tengoen HA001

Max level flight speed: 190km/hour
Cruising speed: 170km/hour
Operational ceiling: 6500m
Max stationary flight ceiling: 6000m (over land?), 3800m (not over land?)
Range: 700km
Endurance: 6 hours
Max takeoff weight: 450kg
Useful load: 100kg
Length: 5.82m
Width: 1.75m
Height: 2.41m
Disc (propeller) diameter: 6.4m

Capable of operating in high-altitude environments . Intended for anti-terrorism, peacekeeping, border patrol, air security, traffic monitoring, search and rescue, disaster monitoring, and general law-enforcement tasks. Also capable of aerial surveying, aerial photography, power line inspection, and other civilian applications.

Uknown Tengoen drone, no specifications yet:

by78 · Dec 17, 2017

AOSSCI is yet another Sichuan company, headquartered in Chengdu. It has unveiled two models.

Light surveillance drone:

Cruising speed: 90km/hour
Endurace: 120 minutes
Useful load: 1kg
Max takeoff weight: 10kg
Mission radius: 50km
Operational ceiling: 4500m

X-Hawk

Vertical takeoff drone for launching in confined spaces and when no runaway is available. Achieves forward level flight quickly after vertical takeoff.

Cruising speed: 120km/hour
Endurace: 90 minutes
Useful load: 3kg
Max takeoff weight: 20kg
Mission radius: 75km
Operational ceiling: 4000m

by78 · Dec 17, 2017

Tengoen HB001

This is the little brother of HA001

Max level flight speed: 136km/hour
Cruising speed: 120km/hour
Operational ceiling: 3000m
Max stationary flight ceiling: 2450m (over land?), 1900m (not over land?)
Range: 500km
Endurance: 5 hours
Max takeoff weight: 280kg
Useful load: 60kg
Length: 5.39m
Width: 1.77m
Height: 2.22m
Disc (propeller) diameter: 5.93m

Blitzo · Dec 17, 2017

by78 said:
X-Hawk

Vertical takeoff drone for launching in confined spaces and when no runaway is available. Achieves forward level flight quickly after vertical takeoff.

Cruising speed: 120km/hour
Endurace: 90 minutes
Useful load: 3kg
Max takeoff weight: 20kg
Mission radius: 75km
Operational ceiling: 4000m

Ooh, I do like this particular concept, though it is very small to exploit the true potential for its configuration.
Hopefully they will look into upscaling it to a Reaper/Wingloong II sized drone, into a TERN like concept to give small flight deck surface combatants like DDGs and FFGs a fixed wing MALE ISR capability.

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